Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Curtis Santiago


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The result was keep. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 10:21, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Curtis Santiago

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WP:BLP of a musician, not reliably sourced as passing WP:NMUSIC. The strongest notability claim here is that he won a minor award at a local music festival in 2003, and otherwise this amounts to "he and his music exist" — and the only reference is a short piece in an alt-weekly, which is not enough coverage to get a person over WP:GNG all by itself if it's the only source you can show. This was a good faith creation under the much looser notability standards of 2007, when it was first created — but our inclusion standards have been tightened up considerably in the intervening 13 years, and under the standards of 2020 his notability claim and its sourcing just aren't enough anymore. Bearcat (talk) 03:18, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 03:18, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 03:18, 26 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete a non-notable musician.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:03, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep One Google search found 7 notable sources 1 2 3 4 5 6 7. Please do your due diligence before going straight to AFD. Specifically, as mentioned in AFD instructions please check "If there are verifiability, notability or other sourcing concerns, take reasonable steps to search for reliable sources." Thanks! Affied (talk) 21:30, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , there's no need to be patronizing. Bearcat is an experienced Wikipedian who's well aware of the requirements of BEFORE. It's entirely possible that the results for "Curtis Talwst Santiago" didn't come back on a search for "Curtis Santiago". The name Talwst isn't in the present article, so how would anyone have known how include it in a search? I had to pick over your sources in some detail before I was even able to say with reasonable certainty they're the same guy - only two of the sources mention his musical career, and none in any detail that matches what's in the article as currently written. You're not wrong that the sources indicate notability as a visual artist, but you could be more polite about it. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 09:01, 2 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep, per the sources provided by Affied he appears to be notable as a visual artist, having given up his music career. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 09:01, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Sufficient coverage to demonstrate notability. --Michig (talk) 09:21, 2 February 2020 (UTC)


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