Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cyclone Maha


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to 2019 North Indian Ocean cyclone season. Tone 19:31, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

Cyclone Maha

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This cyclone hasn't caused any damages or deaths and is not expected to cause any, thus not meriting its own article; a section in the cyclone season's article will suffice. &mdash;  RAVEN PVFF  &middot; talk &middot; 14:07, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Tentative Keep. While I agree that it could become a section in 2019 North Indian Ocean cyclone season, its still transpiring, and it has gathered some fairly significant coverage. Latest alerts classify it as a supercyclone, and while Wikipedia isn't a news site, I think merging/deleting should wait until its declared over. ƒin  (talk) 23:59, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Snow keep The cyclone is obviously notable. It received significant coverage in RS. It's not necessity that cyclone who did most damage should be here. -- Harshil want to talk? 05:50, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep it has been mentioned multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent from one another, therefore in the absence of other considerations (which I don't see) it passes the general notability guideline. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 03:07, 2 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 03:09, 2 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Redirect Im sorry, but the general notability guidelines on secondary coverage do not really apply to tropical cyclones in regards to whether or not they deserve article. Literally every cyclone, whether it causes damage or not is featured in the news. I see absolutely no reason that an article should exist at this point as this is a pure fishstorm. Coverage in the season article is sufficient for storms of this nature. I hereby say this should be draftified and the main space should redirect to the season article. Noah Talk 03:06, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Might I clarify here that every cyclone indeed deserves mention in Wikipedia. The appropriate place for that to occur is on the season article initially. If there is enough content (without bloating the section), an article may be created for the storm. Just because this passes GNG doesn't mean it gets an article. There were many articles deleted back in the day as it was decided that not every storm would get one. While in this case, I feel the AfD is unwarranted, I also feel an article is not warranted. This needs to be a draft until it has some resemblance to an actual tropical cyclone article. The Meteorological history section is full of statements from unofficial sources. The only sources there right now should be the Indian Meteorological Department (the regional specialized meteorological center as designated by the World Meteorological Organization) and the Joint Typhoon Warning Center (An agency operated by the United States Airforce and Navy, used for the 1-minute sustained wind information). The lead is also very poor right now. Note the article lacks an infobox and anything relating it to the season it is a part of. Basically, the whole thing needs to be scrapped at this point. As this storm is likely to become notable after making landfall, I would like to request that this be moved to the draft space until such time it is sufficiently developed. Additionally, the main space should be redirected to the season article section. Noah Talk 16:55, 3 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep, Because of Contonius Issue. --— Del war  • 07:59, 3 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Merge because it's better suited in the season article. Not sure the point in this AFD when this could (and the OP recognizes this) be handled with a merger. YE Pacific Hurricane 04:50, 3 November 2019 (UTC)


 * So it seems that the cyclone is eventually going to make landfall after all. Even then, I think that it's still worth it to merge this article back into the season overview page and re-create it with the proper expertise nearer to then. The article as it currently stands looks nothing like those of other cyclones (e.g. Cyclone Kyarr). Not quite WP:TNT, but close. &mdash;  RAVEN PVFF  &middot; talk &middot; 10:37, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep The cyclone is projected to make landfall in Gujarat and will likely cause damages. The system has already caused agricultural damage in Gujarat and will likely do more. So better wait for a week to see the overall impact. Like Cyclone Vayu this year, it is going to be major cyclone. Not WP: CRYSTAL but meteorological prediction. -Nizil (talk) 02:46, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Can we at least make this a draft until it is more presentable? Noah Talk 03:55, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , I have no problem if it is moved to draft but keep in mind that the article is going to read by thousands in coming days. So it is better if we have the article ready.-Nizil (talk) 04:37, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect – though impacts worthy of keeping it will likely arise by the time the AfD is closed, it isn't a noteworthy storm as of this writing.--Jasper Deng (talk) 05:54, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep There's already a ton of coverage about this (one, two, three, four, etc). Just wait until this bad-boy hits for more.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 16:01, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect, but keep a draft. The storm is being widely covered by the Indian media. It is too soon to decide whether to keep or not, so keep a draft and redirect for now. We'll wait and see the full extent of the damage before making a final decision. --JavaHurricane (talk) 16:38, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Draftify/redirect - the storm could always dissipate over water and not cause major land impacts, so it might eventually be worth merging. As it stands, the article is pretty short, but it's also active. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 18:24, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge Even though it's notable and it passes WP:GNG, it doesn't have a long lasting effect. All Maha is is a decently powerful tropical cyclone in the North Indian Ocean that will dissipate once it reaches the western Indian coast. Minor damage does not warrant an article because of the same issue, WP:EFFECT.  I Need Support  :V 00:32, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * The cyclone does not have any record for itself. It does set some records for the Indian Ocean cyclone season, but that can be put at the 2019 North Indian Ocean cyclone season article.  I Need Support  :V 00:34, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Cyclone dead and no impacts to land. Good to be deleted now. 104.187.148.226 (talk) 00:58, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Based on strength of arguments there is no overall consensus. As this is still an on going event, I'm relisting this.
 * Redirect It is very unnecessary to have a article for such a minor cyclone with little information. It may've been strong, but has shown little to no impact to land whatsoever. It's just like Cyclone Hikaa, it hit land as a depression but really doesn't deserve an article for it. Maybe if there's more info on the storm (which there won't be) THEN it will deserve an article. Hurricaneboy23 03:21, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:11, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to the season article. Just because it has been reported in the news does not mean that it should have an individual article per WP:NOTNEWS.  There is nothing about this cyclone that indicates it will have lasting notabiity.  One can never be totally sure of that, but right now it is WP:TOOSOON. SpinningSpark 00:46, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge into season article per SpinningSpark. The cyclone in question has dissipated with little to no land impact, which means lasting notability is no longer possible to be established. ~ KN2731 {talk · contribs} 15:34, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge into season article per SpinningSpark. As long as the cyclone has caused no significant impact it is unlikely to get further coverage. SerTanmay (talk) 06:59, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge per SpinningSpark.4meter4 (talk) 18:04, 17 November 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.