Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cynthia Martinez (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  09:22, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Cynthia Martinez
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Fails WP:BASIC for lack of sources that discuss the subject in any meaningful way. - MrX 18:27, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
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 * Comment Per WP:ENT, she has lead roles as Lina in the ADV version of Slayers and Sora (lead character) in Kaleido Star, Illyasviel von Einzbern the title character in Fate Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya, Yuna Kagurazaka the title character from Galaxy Fraulein Yuna.  Slayers, of course, has major notability, but it was for the movie dubs and not the one that was of major importance to American anime.  Has appeared in various anime conventions nationwide since 2005.  Most of her work was in the 1990s and early 2000s long before streaming came around. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:55, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
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"For people, the person who is the topic of a biographical article should be 'worthy of notice'[1] or 'note'[2] – that is, 'remarkable'[2] or 'significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded'[1] within Wikipedia as a written account of that person's life."
 * Neutral This article is a problem because I couldn't find reliable sources, but she has a certain amount of significant roles as mentioned by AngusWOOF. Not sure the answer is clear on this one. Esw01407 (talk)
 * Weak keep - Weak because not much reliable coverage seems to exist for her. However, given the (relative lack of) coverage for the American dubbing scene in the first place, and the fact that she's had at least three lead roles, I think we can do an WP:IAR here and keep the article, if only for passing WP:ENTERTAINER. I know that guideline recommends coverage too, the fact that American dubbing doesn't get much coverage in the first place makes me think that we should make exceptions in certain cases. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:22, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep She plays the lead role as Poemi in Puni Puni Poemi, and a main character in Elfen Lied. These two roles plus the above would make it pass WP:ENT. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 15:40, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete, non-notable voice actress. WP:NACTOR may be met but it doesn't guarantee inclusion.
 * "Worthy of notice" - Nope, people don't watch Animes and cartoons for the voices.
 * "Significant" - Not.
 * "Unusual enough to deserve attention" - Nah, just another voice actress. Nothing unusual. - The   Magnificentist  18:10, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I find your reasoning a bit troubling, no people don't watch Animes and cartoons for just the voices but it can be a factor. The rest of your argument boils down to opinions. The fact is that she did have more than one lead role in her work. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 02:30, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Winged Blades Godric  05:08, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete no claim of notability. She appears to work in voice-acting regularly, but there's no claim that any specific role is notable.  We merely have a listing of a lot of them; the references are generally primary sources about the works. It's possible that the article could survive if secondary sources are found and the "Filmography" section is removed. Power~enwiki (talk) 05:30, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Why would the filmography need to be removed? Having one doesn't detract from the question of her notability. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:25, 30 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete no indication of notability. BTW the "agent" link leads to unsavoury places. Rentier (talk) 06:53, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete because of no evidence of notability Rrachet (talk) 15:36, 3 July 2017 (UTC)


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