Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cyr Myrddin, the Coming of Age of Merlin


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The result was   merge to Michael de Angelo. The Bushranger One ping only 12:21, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Cyr Myrddin, the Coming of Age of Merlin

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No indication in article that subject meets the criteria at WP:NBOOKS. No significant coverage from reliable independent sources has been provided. References provided are primary sources, and a link to Amazon. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:35, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * No support or Merge Notable with multiple discussions of the poem amongst other authorian lit. Plenty of sources, including:, , to just note a quick Google search. Now I wouldn't mind a merge with the author page Michael_de_Angelo, but deletion is pushing it, Sadads (talk) 00:41, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for the quick response. I'd concede to a merge if you know that the subject is notable. The article has had a notability cleanup tag since 2009. My larger concern is that a contributor to this article, and to the creation of a few other articles, appears to be related to Gododding Publishing. I saw two of those sources before you posted them, but they didn't appear to say anything that indicated why the subject was important. The Arthurian Encyclopedia printed a synopsis, but how does that translate to notability? Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:49, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
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― Thomas S. Kuhn, The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, 3rd Edition — Preceding unsigned comment added by Litvision (talk • contribs)
 * Merge/redirect to author's page. I tried hard to find something to show notability and I can see where the book appears to be used in some classrooms, but not enough to really show notability. Given that the author's page is such a stub and since he really only appears to have written two books he's truly known for, I think it's reasonable enough to create a section in that article for this book. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   06:00, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge to Author There is nothing in any source I can find to show that the book meets any of the 5 notability guidleines. I think a short summary on the authors page could suffice. SPACKlick (talk) 12:40, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 *  Do Not Delete. Literature as in science, notability evolves through discussion, shared awareness, and integral truth as a historical process. One need only read the lives of artists and scientists to understand that popularity is not the determining factor in notability. This work has proven a significant influence to other artists, including George Lucas, in the creation of Star Wars. Note descriptions of the Force in this work and Star Wars, the character of Iion in this work with Yoda, or the description of the Druidic priesthood with the Jedi knights. One wonders if the commentators on this page have read this book, and if Wikipedia rules and limitations might here be examined as to their ultimate deleterious effect. Or in this world do parallel lines never meet?  And would "On the Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies" be, in 1905, less than notable? “Unanticipated novelty, the new discovery, can emerge only to the extent that his anticipations about nature and his instruments prove wrong.”
 * I ask that the above copypasta be disregarded as it demonstrates ignorance of what "notability" means at Wikipedia, and because consensus is determined through discussion, not quotations. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:03, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.