Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cyril Bavin


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The result was keep. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:19, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Cyril Bavin

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A priest who attended Newington College. No notable achievements disclosed. He was on some internal YMCA Committees. The article does not disclose what the impact of his work was. The first citation in the lead is misleading, and simply is to an opinion piece he wrote in 1929. Nothing there says that his views provoked debate at the time, let alone that he is remembered after his death Adsfvdf54gbb (talk) 11:55, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2017 December 10.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 12:13, 10 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete. Agree with the nomination - nothing to indicate this meets GNG. --Gronk Oz (talk) 12:30, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 13:08, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 13:08, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 13:08, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. North America1000 20:49, 11 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep. Archive searches show that he got WP:SIGCOV in the 1920s as a promoter of mass emigration form Britain to Australia, N.Z. and Canada where these healthy, sturdy young men and women sould help build the Empire, or, at least,  the economy.  Beware presentism, it can lead you into missing all sorts of things, such as what a big deal the YMCA was back in the day.  Bavin wasn't just shooting his mouth off, he was speaking on behalf of a powerful organization. E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:42, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notable in Australia, UK and Fiji. Bio could be improved given new information on the web but as everyone who ever attended Newington College is currently faced a vexatious rash of AfDs it might need to wait. Highly notable family in church, state and education that deserves a family article. Castlemate (talk) 04:59, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. Had an (albeit short) obituary in The Times, which we usually take to indicate notability. That plus his posts and his OBE I think make him notable enough for an article. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:05, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. Over 20 google-book hits that are non-passing. Not everyone who ever graduated from Newington is non-notable.Icewhiz (talk) 14:10, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Quite sufficient here to support WP:NEXIST to support WP:GNG. Aoziwe (talk) 21:43, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. Gets over the line as per Aoziwe. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 09:35, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. Sufficient coverage demonstrated multiple times above. Frickeg (talk) 11:01, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - clearly notable. Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:30, 16 December 2017 (UTC)


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