Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cyrus Pahlavi


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. It's clear from the discussion below that a pretty extensive search for references has not produced evidence of notability. The only argument for retention is an assertion that all members of the Iranian royal family are notable which conflict with WP:NRVE. Hut 8.5 13:49, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Cyrus Pahlavi

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Notability is not inherited. He is just the grandson of Shah's sister. It is not clear where or when he was born or if his grandmother's brother was still in power in Iran or not (Please Note that after 1979 Iranian revolution, the monarchy system was replaced by a republic one).  A  MERICOPHILE 17:47, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep The Iranian royal family is minimally of historical interest to some persons, even though it was displaced three decades ago, or so. Nofatlandshark (talk) 22:14, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 23:11, 20 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep – Per availability of reliable sources. Perhaps more can be added to the article. Here's three I added:
 * — Northamerica1000 (talk) 00:45, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but none of them is about Cyrus Pahlavi. What you have added is about Crown Prince Reza Cyrus Pahlavi, the Shah's son. We are not talking about the Shah's son but about his sister's grandson.  A  MERICOPHILE 03:12, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification, I removed the above references from the Cyrus Pahlavi article. I rescind my "keep" !vote above per this error. Northamerica1000 (talk) 17:49, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * — Northamerica1000 (talk) 00:45, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but none of them is about Cyrus Pahlavi. What you have added is about Crown Prince Reza Cyrus Pahlavi, the Shah's son. We are not talking about the Shah's son but about his sister's grandson.  A  MERICOPHILE 03:12, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification, I removed the above references from the Cyrus Pahlavi article. I rescind my "keep" !vote above per this error. Northamerica1000 (talk) 17:49, 21 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete I have searched for reliable sources covering Cyrus Pahlavi in detail and found only one relevant result—a passing mention. As states above, the sources found by  are not even about this Pahlavi. The subject fails WP:BIO. Goodvac (talk) 03:37, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep A prince in any nation is notable. They are notable because of their position, not because of who they are related to.    D r e a m Focus  14:38, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: Remember to look for Persian sources as well as English! WhisperToMe (talk) 00:06, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm a native speaker of Persian myself. I searched the web but unfortunately nothing important was found. The only Persian source about him is the fawp article that is itself a translated text from enwp article.  A  MERICOPHILE 00:32, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Just to confirm, did you search any of the following, in English, Persian, French, or other languages?
 * Google Books
 * Google News
 * Google Scholar
 * Research databases of US/Western universities, like EBSCOHost Academic Search Complete, JSTor, LexisNexis, etc.
 * If you don't have access, I do have access to some, so I can search these if you like
 * Any academic research databases used in Iran
 * "Archives" sections of websites of Iranian newspapers
 * If you know an Iranian newspaper did an article on him, but don't have access to the newspaper database, see if you can get a microfilm at the area library
 * WhisperToMe (talk) 01:24, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * When I did the following searches:
 * EBSCOHost Acdemic Search Complete: "Cyrus Pahlavi" = 0 results
 * Jstor: "Cyrus Pahlavi" = 0 results
 * Google Books - Does have some matches - but they seem to be about "Reza Cyrus Pahlavi"
 * WhisperToMe (talk) 01:34, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Honestly, it is the duty of users seeking to keep article to provide reliable sources; those seeking to delete it are not required to show that sources cannot be found but since improving an article is definitely better than trying to delete it and to show my good faith, I will search Google Books, Google News, and Google Scholar in both Persian and English but my search would be restricted to online search (the problem is that there are lots of more important topics to spend time on them rather than wasting my/your time because of a person who has done nothing important and is just a member of former Iranian royal family).  A  MERICOPHILE 07:12, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately nothing was found.  A  MERICOPHILE 07:32, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay - I didn't find anything either WhisperToMe (talk) 08:44, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
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