Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Czech immigration to Mexico


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The result was Keep. (non-admin closure) czar ♔   13:57, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Czech immigration to Mexico

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Whilst I don't doubt there are 425 people of Czech descent, that is a drop in an ocean in a population of Mexico of 118 million. The actual topic fails WP:GNG as the topic is not subject to significant third party coverage. The Spanish version of this article doesn't have much sources either LibStar (talk) 14:19, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Czech Republic-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:33, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Mexico-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:33, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:33, 12 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep, it is true that the Czech diaspora in Mexico is small, but the topic (Czech immigration to Mexico) has rich and interesting history (Embassy of the Czech Republic in Mexico),  (Ostravská univerzita). Have you ever heard about the Jesuits Šimon Boruhradský (nicknamed "de Castro", an architect in Ciudad da México and other Mexican cities who helped to design and build river regulation systems, ), Maxmilián Amarell, Adam Gilg-Jílek, Jiří Hostinský or Josef Neumann, travelling to Mexico since the second half of the 17th century? (see the article "Czech Missionaries in New Spain" published by The Hispanic American Historical Review, available via JSTOR). The traveller and explorer Čeněk Paclt fought in the Mexican–American War (1846-48), hundreds of Czechs accompanied the emperor Maximilian I of Mexico during his crazy journey in Mexico. Vojtěch Frič and Egon Kisch, among others, spent a part of their careers in Mexico. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 06:47, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
 * thanks for finding this info, but I am thinking it would be better incorporated into this new article Czech Republic–Mexico relations? LibStar (talk) 07:28, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure because the links I posted here refer to the period before the existence of the state of the Czech Republic, which is mentioned in the title of the second article and thus might be misleading. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 08:26, 15 September 2014 (UTC)


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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 05:38, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

 
 * Keep upon adding the references noted by Vejvančický (talk above. Taram (talk) 08:15, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 17:20, 28 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:HEY. Bearian (talk) 00:48, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * citing an essay is hardly a good argument without explanation. As has been pointed out, many of the new sources refer to before the Czech Republic. LibStar (talk) 13:41, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * @LibStar. This stub has been improved drastically in recent days, and while at first glance was a mess, it is good enough to keep right now.  AfD is not here to fix every problem that can be repaired by normal editing processes.  Long before Czechoslovakia or the Czech Republic, there were a Czech people, who are recognized as having been the inhabitants of Bohemia, Moravia, etc., who speak the Czech language. It's like saying there's no such thing as a Kurd because Kurdistan has never been a sovereign nation. Bearian (talk) 21:16, 30 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep – there were still Czechs before the Czech Republic. Sources provided cover "Czech people" and their immigration to, and involvement with, Mexico, which seems to be the scope of the article. Whether the article is at "the right title" is not the primary discussion point here. C679 15:10, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
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