Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/D-Natural


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The result was delete. Notability not established. &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 23:47, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

D-Natural

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I declined the speedy nomination, but the article still does not have references and I could not quickly find anything. Note that this is the translation of the French Wikipedia article, but that one has no references either. Ymblanter (talk) 09:53, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * - I have requested the original French article to be deleted for this very reason. &#60;&#60;&#60; SOME GADGET GEEK &#62;&#62;&#62; (talk) 15:37, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:37, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Quebec-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:37, 23 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete as too soon, nothing at all for the applicable notability. SwisterTwister   talk  05:27, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
 * To be fair, a stronger claim of notability might be possible here — I don't know whether either "D-Natural est mon nom" or "D-Natural Is Back" could ever have been classified as an actual hit of any sort, but I've definitely heard them before. And if MusiquePlus really dedicated an entire special to him, then that would cover off NMUSIC #12 if it could be sourced. But I'm having trouble finding the referencing needed to support it — I searched both Google and ProQuest, and ran direct searches on Le Devoir, La Presse and Voir, and came up completely empty except for (a) one glancing namecheck of his "notoriously awful" video for "D-Natural est mon nom", and (b) this, which isn't even close to enough to satisfy WP:GNG. Plus "His style of rap and personality is confusing. Many are uncertain if he is being serious or if it is only a parody" poses WP:NPOV issues, if we can't source that properly — and "Today, he no longer raps, but works as a factor for Canada Post." (factor = bad translation of facteur, or "mailman") poses WP:BLPPRIVACY issues, because there's just no way in hell that we can ever reliably source that as being true. So even if he can be sourced over WP:NMUSIC better than anything I'm finding, we're still better off blowing this up than we are keeping an article this bad just because improvement might be possible — the fact that this is a literal word-for-word translation of the existing French article blows my mind, because this is a bloody terrible piece of work that shouldn't have lasted ten years over there either. Delete, without prejudice against recreation in the future if somebody can actually find the quality of sourcing needed to get him over NMUSIC for something. Bearcat (talk) 02:31, 1 May 2016 (UTC)


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