Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DC++


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The result was keep. Nominator replied that provided sources establish notability. (non-admin closure) Qwaiiplayer (talk) 14:58, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

DC++

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Does not meet WP:GNG and WP:NSOFT. Sources are either primary (published by DC++ developers directly), blog, interview (partial to the subject), or guides. Anton.bersh (talk) 16:46, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions. Anton.bersh (talk) 16:46, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. Anton.bersh (talk) 16:46, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Courtesy ping for . Anton.bersh (talk) 16:47, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * These sources in Russian might provide third-party commentary on DC++ and therefore might help establish notability. However, they are in Russian and I can't determine their quality. https://habr.com/ru/search/?target_type=posts&order=relevance&q=%5BDC%2B%2B%5D Anton.bersh (talk) 16:51, 2 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment. The article has existed since 2004. The nominator seems to, at least in part, use the current state of the article as an argument for deletion, which isn't a good argument. Geschichte (talk) 17:52, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, this sounds like a WP:AFDISNOTCLEANUP argument. I remember this software back in 2004 and I would imagine there's content out there with a WP:BEFORE search. – The Grid  ( talk )  00:34, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Could you point me to these sources? I looked for sources, but I only found the dubious material in Russian (linked above). Also, But there must be sources! is not a valid argument. Anton.bersh (talk) 09:10, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, I'm looking up sources and I'm seeing it's limited. I'm sorry for my earlier comment, I didn't realize the article also includes tables of forks of the article which is barely relatable. – The Grid  ( talk )  14:42, 4 November 2021 (UTC)


 * There must've been articles in paper computer magazines. It was used on LAN parties a lot. Ondertitel (talk) 21:13, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. On online search gives decent sources to establish notability.
 * Academic papers: Direct Connect: Evaluation of a filesharing application (2005), DC++ and DDOS Attacks (2007), Analyzing The DC File Sharing Network (2009), Design and Implementation of a extensible Peer–to–Peer Content Recommendation System (2010)
 * Books: https://www.sciencedirect.com/book/9780123742148/p2p-networking-and-applications https://www.google.com/search?tbs=bks:1&q=%22direct+connect%22+%22hub%22+-wikipedia+-amazon or "DC++" "direct connect" -wikipedia
 * Thesis: Measurement and Analysis of the Direct Connect Peer-to-Peer File Sharing Network (2009), Peer Selection in Direct Connect (2013), Biased Random Periodic Switching in Direct Connect (2014)
 * News: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2007/05/peer-to-peer-app-hijacked-for-denial-of-service-attacks/
 * https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2007/05/23/p2p_networks_hijacked_for_ddos_attacks.html cited in https://www.cs.wustl.edu/~jain/cse571-07/ftp/p2p.pdf
 * https://www.theregister.com/2007/05/30/p2p_dos_attacks/ Ondertitel (talk) 23:31, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Well done, I think these sources establish notability. I'll try to incorporate them into the article this week. Anton.bersh (talk) 23:10, 9 November 2021 (UTC)


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