Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DFR Asia


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The result was Speedy deleted as G11  by INeverCry. (non-admin closure). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:37, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

DFR Asia

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No indication of notability. Lots and lots of links, but not a single one to anything that would show notability. 0 Gnews hits. Gtwfan52 (talk) 01:13, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Please refer to the reference list for things "that would show notability." If you don't know anything about the digital media and entertainment industry or the venture capital space, or if you haven't even carefully read the ariticle, please do not talk. The Wikipedia community is primarily built on respect for each other's work and point of view. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DariaDequan (talk • contribs) 01:17, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

I met Rick Myers (DFR's COO) and Gonz Ferrero (their CFO) at a startup event in Singapore. Both are truly exceptional entrepreneurs and businessmen. Rick is ex-Apple and Cisco and Gonz is ex-Citi. Their CEO John Possman is also a BIG NAME in entertainment. The team is super strong and they are doing amazing things. To say a company that has launched and invested in some 12 companies is lacking notability really just shows that either you know nothing about the industry or you are simply highly disrespectful to other people's work... — Preceding unsigned comment added by RayaDePrince (talk • contribs)

This article is not promotional material for reasons listed below: (1) it describes the entity from an objective point of view, focusing on the rising business model, namely the venture studio model, which is deployed by numerous entities all around the world, most of which (to the best of the writer's knowledge) are also linked to in the article; (2) it properly cites outside sources; (3) Wikipedia has approved Betaworks, which is an article of the exact same nature about an entity using the exact same business model (also linked to in the article). — Preceding unsigned comment added by DariaDequan (talk • contribs) 01:32, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
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 * Comment We have something here that is called assume good faith. It appears from the article's creator's comments above that she didn't see that chapter.  What is it that you think shows notability in the article?  The only one who said anything about promotional is you.  The article's notability does not depend on the fame of the founders.  It depends on reliable sources writing about it.  I do not see any.  You are personalizing something that is definitely not personal.  Am I to assume that your rant that borders on a personal attack is a keep !vote?  If so, you should probably reference why in your posting. Gtwfan52 (talk) 02:03, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

The fame of the founders are not fame out of nowhere, they are famous because they have done and are still doing great work in the industry. Isn't that part of the definition of notability? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DariaDequan (talk • contribs) 02:47, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

I highly encourage you to actually check the reference list: (1) Techcrunch has written about the business model. And fyi, Techcrunch is one of the most notable sources in the industry and Leena Rao is a well-known insider and writer; (2) Stefano Bernadi has blogged about the business model and mentioned DFR Asia. He was a VC and worked with 500 Startups, which is one of the most high-profile entities in the industry; (3) Nova Spivack, Shervin Pishevar, etc. have all spoken about the model and how they are involved. Do your research on these people and entities if you haven't. (4) Betaworks is on Wikipedia. There is a linked to them from this article. Same business model and article of the same nature. Did you not know? Mind point out the difference? I find it amazing people feel free to speak about things they know nothing about. It might be more helpful for you to point out what exactly you find "personal" or "promotional" instead of just saying there are not notable references when there are.


 * Delete. No third-party sourcing or in-depth coverage to demonstrate that this company satisfies even the basic notability criteria required for Wikipedia articles. The article also appears to be unnecessarily padded out with details about business models used by other companies. --DAJF (talk) 02:16, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

What do you mean by "padded with details business models used by other companies"? It appears that you haven't even read the article carefully or at all. The business model described is used by DFR Asia AND the other companies you mentioned. No third-party sourcing? Please know what you are talking about before talking, for the sake of respect.


 * Delete: company fails WP:CORP. No indication of notability, but WP:PA.-- Dewritech (talk)  09:14, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete. This link farm is spam. duffbeerforme (talk) 02:16, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Define link farm, and by that I mean, please point out which link is irrelevant to the article. Please explain why you think it's spam, and by that I mean, please point out what content in the article is inappropriate. duffbeerforme — Preceding unsigned comment added by DariaDequan (talk • contribs) 08:01, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
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