Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DJ Kidd


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Nja 247 10:33, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

DJ Kidd

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No indication it meets the criteria for musicians. Speedy removed by a likely sockpuppet and PROD removed by article creator. 98.248.32.178 (talk) 05:28, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * hey, I'm just a fan... I really do not think this page should be deleted. A lot of fans from facebook page http://www.facebook.com/pages/DJ-Kidd/55124384977?ref=ts would be glad to help edit this page and get it on context. Some details are a bit off track, but can be easily edited, right? DJ kidd, that is, Ryan Kidd, has deserved an honor as such! He makes brilliant music. Note, the youtube channel linked on that article is the new channel. His previous channel was deleted by himself. He still has many views. Please reconsider the deletion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rachael1980 (talk • contribs) 05:36, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Procedural Keep The nominator seems not to know what they're doing. I advise those asking for deletion that fixing the article at this point might be better than deleting when there isn't any consensus to delete.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 06:40, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You are mistaken. The nominator is, not or . I have re-ordered the comments to make the nomination statement clearer. Cunard (talk) 07:52, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Why is Rachel1980's edit the first in the history then? I was going by the assumption that she was the nominator and there was some kind of conflict that somehow spilled out onto AfD. This nomination should be closed and a clear AfD for this article with proper reasoning should be created.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 08:02, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * created this AfD at 05:23, 5 August 2009 (UTC). This was 10 minutes after placed an AfD tag on the article at 05:13, 5 August 2009 (UTC) (leaving a red-link to this AfD) and added a rationale to Talk:DJ Kidd at 05:16, 5 August 2009. Rachel1980 created this page after seeing the red link on DJ Kidd. This then enabled 98.248.32.178 to add a nomination statement to this AfD. A new AfD should not be started the nomination statement by 98.248.32.178 is valid, and I fully endorse it. Cunard (talk) 08:15, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank You I would like help in trying to edit this page and fix it. Maybe contact can be made to Kidd? thank you. --Musiclovers00 (talk) 07:20, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I just spoke to the author, and she had no clue what she did. She thought it was an alert for you to talk to you. And I think I removed the speedy, I was told I am able to as I was a fan. All fans have been notified of page on wiki.. that being near 900. Can you enlighten more? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rachael1980 (talk • contribs) 05:36, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete - A7 Non-notable musician, fails WP:MUSIC and WP:BIO. A Google News Archive search returns results about unrelated individuals. The subject of this article was born in 1991, while a number of the articles in Google News were published before that date. The article asserts no notability, so it should be speedy deleted under A7. Cunard (talk) 07:52, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Not quite speedy but still Delete. There do seem to be some claims to notability, but that notability is manifestly not shown. Quantpole (talk) 10:46, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, fails notability per WP:MUSIC. Searching finds no significant coverage in reliable, third-party, sources.   Esradekan Gibb    "Klat" 11:41, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete No proven notability - not much claim to any notability really but enough to limp through speedy claims. References provided are nothing like reliable sources. Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 12:30, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Procedural Keep I have search google, as well as other places, even references, and yes, there is little/no notability of this individual. But I did pass onto the facebook page, and there is a notable gathering of fans to this figure. The youtube channel noted in the article is also valid with music under copyyright. Also, I took it up as just curiousity to learn news in his cliamed nationality. The country of Trinidad honours him as a top music producer and assistant to artist. I've learnt that there are written public articles in presses, and concerts have been held by him in clubs. The article written here is very poor, and I believe we should so more investigating to find more on the individual. There seeems to be a good bit to write on him than is written, and facts should be taken in. I opt we keep, but request more information and editing by the viewers. --Lionelisbest (talk) 19:58, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Additional Again, I have reason to believe that news of that country is scarcely ever placed on a large scale as the US and UK. Though, fame in Trinidad and Tobago is not known to the US and UK and Europe, it is known is bits of states and the Caribbean. My belief is, due to the lack of being a 1st world nation, this individual will suffer notice when it comes to searching google news, if I'm not mistaken. The debate of this page should also keep in mind, that though not an international superstar, he may be a national megastar? I think we ought to keep this page based on this: the benifit of the country itself. This may serve to lift news from there later on. The people on Trinidad and Tobago may want to learn more on him, and, my belief again, isn't wiki all on learning? We may learn big, but would not want to know, right? But they however, they would want to know more on him. It should either be kept, or debted further. And I do hope no one spams this... even the author. The template aboves states it is not majority. It is a factual debate. So please, do not try to ask people to help. Thank you. --Lionelisbest (talk) 20:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Can you provide reliable sources for any articles written about him? Facebook, myspace, youtube etc are not reliable sources. They need to be independent third party sources - bear in mind they do not have to be internet sources, but should be verifiable. Thanks Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 10:32, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * ResponseYes there is a number of articles on the figure, however, not sourced by google. I have been to Trinidad (it being part of my acestory) and I do have contacts. After viewing the article and AfD, I request a friend to find out more in Trinidad. THe local magazines do source on the DJ/Musician, however, most articles carry his previous name, Ryan Tilluck. I have request a few digital copies. There are articles also in weekly, not daily, but weekly newspapers. Also, I am still yet to find the fact on it, but local television programs and news air his music for theme, but I am yet to get the truth, as i said. I will try to source more and obtain digital copies. I believe this DJ is also a big name in Trinidad Carnival, if you know what that is? He has been known to head and found a number of bands for the event. I will try to obtain more reliable sources, and hope the admins will permit me the time to do so? You can comment back if you do seek more. --Lionelisbest (talk) 18:26, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - Not notable, fails WP:MUSIC. I am from Trinidad and I'm pretty sure I've never heard of him. I consider myself very knowledgeable in the Trinidad Music/Carnival Scene; this guy is not notable in those arenas. The article itself has nothing encyclopedic (which doesn't matter for an Afd but just saying). For example information about his SEA (Secondary Entrance Assessment Examination) results do not belong on Wikipedia; that exam is the equivalent of the SATs in the US at the middle school level. All the content is a stretch to bypass a speedy delete. The article doesn't even have real notability claims that warrant much further investigation. I'm a inclusionist but this really is a simple delete. --   R45    talk! 07:16, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, that is odd. I'm 50-50 trini, and I have heard of this individual. Also, based on WP:MUSIC, it is said only to require ONE of the criterias, and he seems to cover just a few, and in my opinion as an editor, a few that can stand through the AfD. I am not sure of your sources, but I am of mine, all of whom, (with the exception of one chutney loving local), are aware of this individual, and he is known as a Space La Nouba, Hi RPM and Sting DJ at times (local clubs). He also has been noted as one of few suppliers for personal beats required for carshow soundoff events. He does as sufficient notability to keep. My opinion and view has not changed as yet, and I doubt it shall. --Lionelisbest (talk) 03:26, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
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