Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DJ Postal


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Drmies (talk) 15:14, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

DJ Postal

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contested prod. Only links are to own radio station. Non notable person/musician Gaijin42 (talk) 20:27, 7 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete: No independent sources establishing notability, and very little chance that any will ever be found. Obvious self-promotion. Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 20:52, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete: Per nom, as a NN musician, but I'm totally stealing that DJ name when I go global.  Liv it ⇑ Eh?/What? 21:04, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete local DJ who could one day be notable, but currently isn't. The sources are not independent or substantial, so do not meet WP:RS. The subject does not pass WP:GNG or WP:BAND. If/when the subject does, the article could be recreated, but wait until notability can be established. Sparthorse (talk) 21:18, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep: While I may be biased as author of this article, I disagree with many of the comments above. First off, I'd like to state that I'm in no way affiliated to this DJ (therefore it is not obvious self-promotion as stated by User: Dominus Vobisdu). However, I do know that he is very notable within the Rhode Island, Massachusetts and Connecticut radio market (from listening to him on 95.5) which inspired me to write this article. Please listen to the HotNewHipHop DJ Postal Artist Drop soundtrack also - this is testament to the fact that he works/is affiliated/has been cosigned by many notable musicians/DJs. It's very hard to establish notability as a DJ, I think deletion of this article should be reconsidered.Jmgoncal (talk) 21:42, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * According to Wikipedia,


 * A musician or ensemble (note that this includes a band, singer, rapper, orchestra, DJ, musical theatre group, etc.) may be notable if it meets at least one of the following criteria:


 * 1. This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles – I have seen an article of DJ Postal published in the Providence Phoenix where he did not talk or advertising himself


 * 7. Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city


 * 10. Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g. live exclusive mixes on Hot 97 Boston and 95.5 WBRU, one of the highest rated radio stations in the Providence-Pawtucket-Woonsocket radio marketJmgoncal (talk) 22:12, 7 December 2011 (UTC)


 * This is quoted from WP:BAND. #1 misses out the main sentence which is "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself.". Even if he has been the major subject of one newspaper article, the criteria requires multiple appearances. If you could find the Providence Phoenix article, it might be one source. Its impossible to judge until you can point us at the actual article. #7 requires an independent, published source that says he is "one of the most prominent'" (or words to that effect) representatives of a notable style. Again, can you supply a citation to such an article? Merely claiming this to be true is not enough. #10 actually says "Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g. a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc." I don't think appearing on a radio show is included in the intended meaning of this criteria. Sparthorse (talk) 22:21, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:49, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:50, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete This has not risen to the level of significant coverage in multiple 3rd party sources. The breif mentions, most often just in passing or in calendar entries, in the Providence Phoenix isn't doing much here to establish notability.  This artist may be notable one day, but that day isn't today. RadioFan (talk) 02:13, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. --Legis (talk - contribs) 07:48, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete as lacking in-depth coverage in reliable, independent third-party sources. Should such sources be integrated into the article feel free to leave a note on my talk page and I'll take another look. Stuartyeates (talk) 22:30, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete According to this web page, the name of the DJ at WBRU is "Postal", so this article lacks reliable primary sources that this topic exists.  Article may have copyvio issues with this webpage and this webpage.  This page is listed as a reference, but it is authored by "DJ Postal", so it is self-published, plus it is a dead link, although it can still be seen in the Google cache.  Article has a promotional tone.  There is a reasonable chance that the identifiability and sourcing problems can change with time, but for now the redirect should be deleted, also.  Unscintillating (talk) 16:49, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.