Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DVDASA


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to David Choe. The only "keep" is non-poilicy-compliant. Consensus is to redirect the panda ₯’  23:01, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

DVDASA

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non-notable podcast. appears to be purely for advertising purposes, written almost entirely by single-use accounts who have removed a previous AfD notice. [ UseTheCommandLine  ~/ talk  ]# &#9604; 23:45, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
 * There are some recent blogs from e.g. Gawker that mention the podcast in passing as the place where the primary person, David Choe, publicly responded to rape allegations, but this does not seem to me to warrant an entire article for the podcast itself. I notice that the article creator,, also works on the David Choe article, which also reads like something of a press-bio. I suspect a great deal of CoI/PR here. -- [ UseTheCommandLine  ~/ talk  ]# &#9604; 23:56, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

I've removed all social media links and external links from the main article. According to the Reliable Source Noticeboard, Gawker is not a reliable source so I will not include it. The controversy in question stems from an article from another tabloid, XOJane which is also not listed as a reliable source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hashashash (talk • contribs) 00:52, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

DVDASA is a popular podcast with notable hosts and guests. Its Wikipedia page has a similar format to other popular podcasts. This page provides a helpful reference and compendium for the content produced by DVDASA.Jarsh32 (talk) 02:31, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 21:57, 23 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Again, I have been completely unable to find reliable sources necessary to establish the notability of this podcast. I have had discussions with on our talk pages that were not particularly helpful in identifying RS or establishing N so far, which others are welcome to refer to. -- [  UseTheCommandLine  ~/ talk  ]# &#9604; 12:31, 24 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar ♔  04:42, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar ♔  04:33, 6 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete. I don't see significant coverage in reliable sources.  With only 150 Google hits, the pickings are a bit slim. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:31, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Redirect to David Choe. If the existence of this article revolves around coverage of Choe, that material belongs at any putative biography of him. None of the sources I've found provides in-depth coverage of the podcast. --j⚛e deckertalk 17:53, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep, passes GNG and has been covered in reliable sources, , , and . They cover controversial topics and is unique. Valoem   talk   contrib  18:42, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
 * WP:GNG's criteria are not met with brief mentions in reliable sources, but require significant coverage of a topic in reliable sources, and says "it takes more than just routine news reports about a single event or topic to constitute significant coverage." Looking at the four sources you cited:
 * [1] from Gawker is an article about Choe's controversial discussion on a particular episode of DVDASA, but the article includes the term DVDASA only in a followup response from David Choe, not in Gawker’s own coverage.
 * [2] from LAist is an article about the same incident as the Gawker article, and provides almost no information about DVDASA itself; it is mentioned in only one sentence: "Choe hosts a podcast with porn star Asa Akira called DVDASA."
 * [3] from Liberty Voice is an article about the same incident as the Gawker article, and provides little information about DVDASA itself; while the term is multiple times (e.g. "During an episode of DVDASA..."), the only info about the Podcast itself are its cohosts and the brief description that it's "a dark-comedy podcast that claims to help youth with relationships and sexuality".
 * [4] from BuzzFeed is an article about the same incident as the Gawker article, and provides no information about DVDASA itself.


 * Redirect to David Choe. Insufficient significant coverage of the topic in reliable sources to meet GNG. No mentions in books.google.com or scholar.google.com. A normal web search turned up several reliable source articles that mentioned DVDASA, but most were in passing (i.e. about a person interviewed on DVDASA) or controversial "rapey" comments by David Choe on a particular episode of DVDASA. A Daily Beast article has significant coverage about DVDASA, but that's just one source, and WP:GNG requires significant coverage from multiple independent reliable sources; if there were a couple more articles like that, I'd switch my vote to Keep, and I'll be checking back if anyone finds other sources to propose. Note that the prweb.com reference currently cited in the article is a press release, which is not an independent reliable source (it would count as a primary source, like citing dvdasa.com itself). Agyle (talk) 21:00, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
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