Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DX-Ball


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Seumas McNally.  Sandstein  18:51, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

DX-Ball

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Google and Archive.org searches yield very few results covering DX-Ball—a common notability problem for non-commercial freeware games prior to the smartphone age. Its sequel is no different, unfortunately. Note that the sequel's article's sources are almost entirely primary, which is not good for establishing a subject's notability. The first article could be merged into Breakout (video game) and the second into that or Longbow Games, the sequel's developer.  Free Media  Kid$  02:03, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions.  Free  Media  Kid$  02:03, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions.  Sennecaster  ( Chat ) 02:33, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Weak delete/merge/redirect. Two cited sources are reliable (PC Zone) but fail SIGCOV. Right now the article is mostly unreferenced and violates OR/CITE, and GNG is unclear. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 08:40, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Seumas McNally. As someone who played DX-Ball in my childhood, I really wanted to find something to make it pass WP:GNG, but it's just not happening. The coverage in Mladá fronta DNES is the only thing out there that counts. Like said above, PC Zone coverage is on the passing mention levels, and Moby gives dubious sources and a WP:ROUTINE short Download CNET review that's there for majority of products hosted over there. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 11:48, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

If there is no objection to my suggestion, I would be absolutely willing to make the required changes. Should I simply proceed or is there some formality required? KR777 (talk) 15:51, 1 November 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relisting as multiple merge/redirect targets have been suggested (Breakout (video game), Longbow Games, Seumas McNally, and DX-Ball 2) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwaiiplayer (talk) 13:53, 8 November 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 23:16, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge DX-Ball into DX-Ball 2. While I agree that two articles both for DX-Ball and DX-Ball 2 are a bit much, it would be a 'shame' to have both deleted. DX-Ball and sequels have been a staple of arcade video game history and as such simply deserves an article in wikipedia. Note: Merging the articles into Breakout (video game) (i.e. a different video game!) and/or Longbow Games (i.e. a development studio, not a game!) would be inappropriate as it would diffuse the encyclopedic character. My suggestion is as follows:
 * (1) Merge the contents of DX-Ball article into the article for DX-Ball 2 where relevant.
 * (2) Redirect DX-Ball to DX-Ball 2.
 * (3) Trim the contents of DX-Ball 2 regarding the "excessive" version history as much as possible.
 * (4) Also include the sequel DX-Ball 20th Anniversary Edition which was released on Steam in 2018 (https://store.steampowered.com/app/922400/DXBall_2_20th_Anniversary_Edition/), where it seems to be quite popular by the way.
 * (5) Search and include more references to back up the information that remains in the merged article for DX-Ball 2.
 * Merge both to Seumas McNally, as both are more closely associated with his legacy than with Breakout or Longbow. There's a lot of cruft to leave behind in the merge—only need what the reliable sources have written. Also note that DX-Ball 2 is tagged for AfD but not bundled above. czar  16:27, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge both DX-Ball and DX-Ball 2 into McNally's article per Czar's arguments. IceWelder  &#91; &#9993; &#93; 08:48, 23 November 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.