Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daddy's Hands (band)


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric  03:47, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Daddy's Hands (band)

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Article about a band with no strong claim to passing WP:NMUSIC, and no strong reliable source coverage to support it. The strongest notability claim here is that they were an influence on other more notable bands that post-dated them -- but that isn't actually sourced at all, and the rest of the referencing is pretty weaksauce at best: two obituaries of the lead singer, one glancing namecheck of their existence in an article that isn't about them, one library directory entry showing that the University of British Columbia library has a tape of an interview the dead lead singer once did on the University of British Columbia's campus radio station (but NMUSIC makes a special point of deprecating student media sourcing as not able to bring the notability in the musical domain), and one album review on AllMusic. So that last is the only source that actually counts for anything at all toward getting the band over WP:GNG, but one source isn't enough to pass GNG all by itself — based on the fact that one of the obits is in The Globe and Mail, Dave Wenger literally has a better chance of clearing NMUSIC as an individual than the band does of clearing it as a band, and even a biography of him still wouldn't be a slamdunk if the obit was the only good source that could be found about him. Bearcat (talk) 23:43, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   CAPTAIN RAJU  (✉)   01:31, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions.   CAPTAIN RAJU  (✉)   01:31, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of British Columbia-related deletion discussions. North America1000 01:51, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. I added to the article a pair of reviews from Punknews.org and Exclaim!, both of which are considered reliable at the Albums WikiProject. These sources, plus Allmusic, offer enough coverage to meet WP:BAND, albeit not by an overwhelming amount.  Gongshow   talk  22:41, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:50, 7 May 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 00:17, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. I found some citations that bolster what Gongshow added, namely, their low commercial success but apparent lasting influence in the scene. There's an interview where Dave Boeckner of Wolf Parade states he played with them for awhile (hence people assuming an influence on Wolf Parade). Johnny Pollard of Daddy's Hands founded Atlas Strategic with Boeckner. Other members have gone on to play with other scene bands or artists. Basically it kind of seems like they're one of those bands that served as a hub or a nexus in the scene, and with Gongshow's added reviews, I believe they manage to pass WP:NBAND. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 17:30, 21 May 2017 (UTC)


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