Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daigo Umehara (4th nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep with leave to speedy renominate if someone wishes to do so in good faith. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:37, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Daigo Umehara
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since Justin Wong's article is up for deletion, i thought i'd nominate daigo's along with it. there is nothing notable about daigo that isn't also notable about justin wong. he's well known in japan, but known only in a small fighting game community in the US. those who do know daigo know him in relation to justin wong. --Wongba (talk) 06:39, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

--OshareMajo (talk) 11:25, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: Wongba's argument is totally invalid.
 * Why did you nominate him when his notability was already discussed 4 years ago. And now he's much more famous than that even for the western world. (Note that I use "western world" not just U.S.)
 * Look at these quotes from some of the recent articles.
 * "Daigo “The Beast” Umehara, dubbed “God of 2D Fighting Games” by Arcadia magazine, is the world’s most famous Street Fighter player." - EVOAPAC website.
 * "is considered one of the best Street Fighter players in the world." - Joystiq.
 * "he's the current reigning Street Fighter 4 champion, in addition to having won the Evolution series of fighting tournaments multiple times." - 1UP.
 * "an internationally renowed professional gamer" - Mad Catz.
 * "Since then, Umehara's fame and reputation has spread through the fighting game community and beyond. He plays with unrivalled precision and grace, combining the reactions of a peak-form Muhammad Ali with the strategy of a Garry Kasparov. He is undoubtedly the greatest Street Fighter player to have played the game. " - Eurogamer.net.
 * "nothing notable about daigo that isn't also notable about justin wong" This statement is clearly wrong.
 * "but known only in a small fighting game community in the US. " You assume that all forum posters (shoryuken.com?) are American? Not English speakers?
 * Also, interestingly, Daigo's YouTube clips from EVO 2004 have more than 6 million views combined. Do you actually think majority (if not all) of them came to see Justin Wong and majority of them is the people in "a small fighting game community in the US."? Even if they didn't come to see Daigo, I'm sure they did come to see the guy that did some crazy stuff that everyone was talking about. That guy's name is Daigo Umehara.
 * Nominating Daigo's page just because Justin Wong's page is about to be deleted is childish. Instead of concentrate on fighting to keep his article, you came here to nominate Daigo. Your edit history also raises a question about your credibility. You are Justin Wong's page starter who took large portion of contents from (an old version of) Daigo's page and made a slightly edit.


 * Note – Moved malformed AFD from Articles for deletion/Daigo Umehara. –MuZemike 14:38, 18 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions.  –MuZemike 14:40, 18 May 2010 (UTC) –MuZemike 14:40, 18 May 2010 (UTC)


 * This looks like a WP:POINTy nomination in retaliation to my nomination of Justin Wong‎ a day ago. This sounds more like "all or nothing" to me. –MuZemike 14:44, 18 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep. Without too much reading. Quick search shows enough coverage/notability outside 1 event. Unless issues other than "because Wong was nominated" are presented I do not see a notability problem with this article. — Hellknowz ▎talk 15:20, 18 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Close AfD - Bad faith nomination. Nominator considers the notability of this and the Wong article to be equivilent. However, he argues keep for one whilst nominating the other. Therefore this is disrupting Wikipedia to make a point. Marasmusine (talk) 22:36, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Close AfD, default to Keep - I second Marasmusine and MuZemike on the bad faith nomination. Clear cut case of WP:POINT. --Teancum (talk) 12:09, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
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