Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daily Life Practice


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Only one valid keep argument, but overall the consensus that I feel is correct was to delete. NJA (t/ c)  10:12, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Daily Life Practice

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Non-notable philosophy of the Zen teacher Clive Sherlock, who is nominated separately at Articles for deletion/Clive Sherlock. There's a 2004 article in the Guardian here discussing his Adaptation Practice, which is supposedly the same thing. However, I can find no significant reference to this elsewhere, certainly not in the medical literature, and one newspaper writeup does not make this theory notable.  Glenfarclas  ( talk ) 10:43, 24 December 2009 (UTC) Keep This is a notable philosophy and is well referenced to Zen Buddhism. Daily Life Practice is not unrelated but is the practical application in the West of Zen practice presented in a workable way as are Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction with Jon Kabat-Zinn and Mindfulness-Based Cognitive Therapy with Segal, Williams and Teasdale. The name Adaptation Practice was devised by Clive Sherlock who, apparently, has recently changed it to Daily Life Practice. There is also a feature article on it in The Times newspaper 16 February 1999 which quotes a Dr Chris John and a social worker Robyn Broome and a patient Gary Jenkins. The article on Clive Sherlock also seems well referenced. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lowheights (talk • contribs) 11:19, 28 December 2009 (UTC). I hope it is in order for me to write comments here. I am new to this and wrote a comment above 11.19, 28 December on the assumption that it would be allowed and to enter the discussion. I have edited the article Daily Life Practice by altering some of the text and by adding a more relevant references. I did this before 28 December note above. What would anyone recommend could make the article more acceptable to the Wikipedia requirements? Sherlock also appears in print in two published books on philosophy and psychology in which he has written chapters on psychology of Daily Life Practice (referring to it under its previous name Adaptation Practice).--Lowheights (talk) 18:03, 30 December 2009 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Timotheus Canens (talk) 02:35, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Nothing in Gnews; web hits are all for the guy's own sites. Mangoe (talk) 14:50, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep I agree with last entry. There are adequate references for what is obviously a notable theory/philosophy/practice. The issue over the name of an article in the Guardian newspaper is only a question of what's in a name : it's obviously the same rose - theory/philosophy/practice.
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 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 01:48, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
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 * Delete The article on the founder already contains the small amount of information necessary. I do not consider most of the references to be independent.    DGG ( talk ) 01:51, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep There is also an article in The Times newspaper by Anjana Ahuja: THE TIMES - London February 16 1999, "Train your mind to fight depression: You can liberate yourself by learning to live with your feelings", which is more substantial and more detailed than the Guardian article. Another article appeared in the The Telegraph Magazine - feature article: Broken down by Clare Allan - 11 March 2006. --Lowheights (talk).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lowheights (talk • contribs) 09:03, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep, as a better rounded article with the content at Clive Sherlock merged. The aggregate of the sourced material, including the guardian article is about the therapy, not the founder.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 04:38, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep, The Times article includes quotes from another doctor, a senior social worker and patients all of whom had firsthand knowledge of the therapy times article Lowheights (talk 08:40, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep, Sherlock also has relevant chapters published in two books peer group reviewed: Book: Searching for New Contrasts edited by Riffert & Weber and Book: The Roar of Awakening edited by Derfer, Wang & Weber--Lowheights (talk) 10:15, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * There's no need to !vote repeatedly. That makes your fifth, and I note that neither you nor User:Tractarian (the creator) has edited any topic other than this or Clive Sherlock.   Glenfarclas   ( talk ) 23:57, 14 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep, On the notability point, it seems to me that a unique therapeutic approach such as this, with its relationship with a notable eastern philosophy and notable Zen teacher (one of the few European Zen teachers, Ven. Myokyo-ni), could not fail to be of interest to many people. In terms of whether the interesting content is referenced, there are many references of many different kinds: several examples in the national press, in journal articles, and books.  --Tractarian talk • contribs) 21:52, 14 January 2010
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