Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dale Mitchell (ice hockey) (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete. Davewild (talk) 20:47, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Dale Mitchell (ice hockey)
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The previous 2008 AfD was closed as `Keep`, however this minor league hockey player does not meet the notability requirements as is now established at WP:NHOCKEY. Wikipedia is not a Crystal Ball. Dolovis (talk) 04:53, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
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 * Keep; looks like he passes WP:BASIC. bobrayner (talk) 00:18, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:13, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Keep per sources noted by Bobrayner Racepacket (talk) 11:42, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete as not passing WP:NHOCKEY. As for the sources bobraynor provides: 1 is a blog, 2 is non-reliable database, 3 is a blog?, 4 a blog, 5 from his own junior team, 6 is dead, 7 and 8 are the only legit source and just a few paragraphs. Definitely not WP:BASIC.  Grsz 11 04:50, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete as it doesn't meet WP:HOCKEY's notability requirements. GoodDay (talk) 19:09, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete: Fails the GNG, WP:NHOCKEY and more to the point, WP:NTEMP, which specifically holds: "For example, routine news coverage such as press releases, public announcements, sports coverage, and tabloid journalism is not significant coverage." The only valid, independent sources here are short "Mitchell has joined the team" pieces which are commonly deemed to be "routine sports coverage."   Ravenswing  19:54, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment on above sources - The listed sources could be found for virtually any amateur junior hockey player, and they fail to demonstrate that the subject has received independent and significant coverage in reliable sources per WP:GNG.
 * 1 - Bleacher Report should never be considered a reliable source
 * 2 – hockeysfuture.com has a profile for virtually every amateur hockey player in world and cannot be used to demonstrate notability
 * 3 - is a blog
 * 4 - is a blog
 * 5 – is an OHL press release and cannot be considered to be an independent source
 * 6 – is just a photograph
 * 7 – is an OHL press release and cannot be considered to be an independent source
 * 8 – is a Maple Leafs press release and cannot be considered to be an independent source

Dolovis (talk) 00:36, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. I'm forced to agree, this player doesn't appear to meet the current standards of notability, though it should be noted that he did when the first AFD was closed as keep. Standards, apparently, have changed. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 18:15, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: Indeed they have, which is why a number of Keep proponents the first time out have flipped to Delete this time out.  Ravenswing  19:15, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
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