Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dalimas


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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 13:42, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Dalimas

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Fails Notability (music). HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 19:40, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 19:40, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Brazil-related deletion discussions. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 19:40, 15 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Discogs is not a reliable source, and there are no other sources (other than the official site and the official fanclub, but those are cited as external links, and they are no support for notability either). The Portuguese article cites a (now) dead link as a source. Couldn't find anything during a search that establishes notability. Only the standard, usual junk sites like youtube, download and lyrics sites, retail sites, facebook and other social media and streaming sites. No evidence of notability. The article was created way back in 2006, and notability hasn't been proven ever since. GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 20:32, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Comment: Hello,

I tried as a member of Eurodance Music Fan clun in Brasil to update the article. Unfortunatly it was believed there was no Source and the entire Article was deleted.

For Dance Music Scene in Brazil, Dalimas was the biggest Dance Music Group, with Building Records. THe Record Label doenst exist anymore, but the Groupe was very relevant for the National Dance Music.

Me as a Fan am very sad that you are deleting the information writen in 2006. Maybe in US or Canada you dont understand it. Building Records was the biggest National Dance Music Label in Brasil.

The article was writen in 2006, when the group presented on PLANET POP FESTIVAL in Sao Paulo.

Here are some Sources. At that time INternet wasnt like it is now, and many articles are still print.

PLanet POp - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3dW2xlazao

https://www.ofuxico.com.br/noticias-sobre-famosos/gisele-abramoff-conta-como-sera-o-fim-de-ano-na-alemanha/2020/12/23-392497.html

https://portalrplus.com/2021/01/07/gisele-abramoff-prepara-vinda-ao-brasil-para-lancamento-de-lockdown/?no_cache=1610045744

https://www.meine-anzeigenzeitung.de/lokales/muenchen-nord/unterschleissheimerin-your-voice-kick-off-gesangskarriere-13866630.html

https://epopnaweb.com.br/diva-da-dance-music-gisele-abramoff-prepara-vinda-ao-brasil/

https://olaitapetininga.com.br/a-cantora-gisele-abramoff-ex-dalimas-retorna-ao-brasil-para-gravar-videoclipe-e-singles/

https://jornalnoticiasdesaopaulo.com.br/diva-da-dance-music-gisele-abramoff-prepara-vinda-ao-brasil/

https://www.portalego.com.br/diva-da-dance-music-gisele-abramoff-prepara-vinda-ao-brasil/

https://jornalnoticiasdobrasil.com.br/diva-da-dance-music-gisele-abramoff-prepara-vinda-ao-brasil/

https://portoferreiranoticias.com.br/diva-da-dance-music-gisele-abramoff-prepara-vinda-ao-brasil/

https://portalrplus.com/2020/12/01/gisele-abramoff-diva-da-dance-music-prepara-vinda-ao-brasil/

https://lucianamaluf.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/29.11rj.pdf

http://osasconoticias.com/news/gisele-abramoff-conta-como-sera-o-fim-de-ano-na-alemanha-178095.html


 * , none of these sources show in-depth coverage. Let me go through them one by one. All these sources focus on Abramoff not on the band. This does not prove at all that this band is notable.HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 22:09, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

1) The first reference is a 3 minute Youtube link of a performance 2) This is an interview with Abramoff which a) is WP:PRIMARY and b) not in-depth coverage of this band 3) Once again, focuses just on Abramoff 4)Once again, focuses just on Abramoff 5)Another interview, just on Abramoff 6)404 Error 7)3 paragraphs, just on Abramoff 8)404 error 9) 404 error 10) 404 error 11)Abramoff 12) Need a page number 13)Abramoff
 * Delete: Not a single source covering them in-depth. Clear WP:SOAPBOX attempt. SirEdimon  Dimmi!!! 23:43, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Plus, on pt.WP this same article was created by an blocked sock, so it's very likely that socks are involved here too.-- SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 23:45, 15 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete, but I strongly disagree that it's as obvious a delete as others have suggested. After searching extensively in Portuguese I believe that Gisele Abramoff should have a page, but not Dalimas. I keep finding coverage of Abramoff that would almost certainly pass GNG, but basically nothing that treats Dalimas in anything more than passing fashion. This is a bit tantalizing, because the band dissolved in 2007, before a lot of Brasilian culture magazines were publishing online, and I think it's very possible that someone with the right access to offline portuguese-language sources could put together a good GNG argument. I was also intrigued by the fact that the Portuguese page asserts that at one point Dalimas became one of the most famous dance music bands in Brazil, with lots of hints at a WP:BAND 7 argument that it exemplifies early 21st century Brazilian electronica, but that claim has had a citation needed tag for almost 4 years now. Dalimas was described in some depth in this magazine article from 2019, and there it is referred to as a success, and one of the main national projects of a large record label, but it's not really in depth, and anyhow I can't find a second similar source. Finally, only 1 award is named for Dalimas, and it's one of 31 annual awards given by a magazine that itself does not appear to be particularly prominent. So I think it's a delete, but in the long term what I would really like to see is a page at Gisele Abramoff that covers some content related to Dalimas, with a redirect from Dalimas to that page. - Astrophobe  (talk) 02:24, 16 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete, most sources I could find focus on Gisele Abramoff, so maybe she's notable, but the group is not. Victor Lopes  Fala! • C 16:32, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - sourcng is very poor. Bearian (talk) 01:22, 18 January 2021 (UTC)


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