Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dameer Khan


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Draftify. Liz Read! Talk! 04:25, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Dameer Khan

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Non notable singer & promotional article. I am unable to see/find any significant covarage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject.

All of sources are either interview masquerading-as-an-article or press release type. Didn't won any major/notable award. Fails every criteria of WP:GNG, WP:CREATIVE. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 03:58, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * A note that another similar article was created here by a sock, which was later redirected by Bbb23. May be something going on somewhere? COI? আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 04:08, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * As for the redirect, I had no previous knowledge of the revision since it is an old edit. I don’t understand what you mean by ‘COI’ or ‘was created by a sock.’ If you could please elaborate on that. Abyan Malek (talk) 05:00, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * @Abyan Malek see WP:COI and WP:SOCKPUPPET for more information. The basic explanation is that "COI" stands for "conflict of interest", which could be something like a personal/professional connection with a subject which would make it inappropriate for you to be editing their page; and a sockpuppet is an undeclared second account by a user made to make it look like multiple people are taking the same side in a disagreement when in reality it's just one person disguising themself with multiple names. Allegations like these tend to get thrown around a lot by Wikipedia editors without any actual evidence so you probably don't have anything to worry about there. QuietHere (talk) 06:46, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for explaining. I am not professionally involved with the subject nor am I using several accounts. I know that these things are wrong to do very well. Abyan Malek (talk) 15:41, 12 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep- The article has enough ‘reliable sources’ as per Notability to back up the text. I understand that there are no awards won and that may affect the notability of the article, but the songs are notable worthy. If the article isn’t suitable in the main space, particularly for the lack of ‘awards’ then moving it back to the draft space is better. If you think the article is ‘promotional,’ worded differently ‘biased,’ then please suggest edits that can be done to make it bias-free. Abyan Malek (talk) 04:57, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Do you know what primary covarage? the whole article is based on interviews (all of sources are primary). I don't see any significant covarage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 19:53, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * does this count as secondary?
 * https://archive.dhakatribune.com/showtime/2021/03/02/four-awesome-bangladeshi-musicians-you-probably-don-t-know-about Abyan Malek (talk) 19:58, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * No. They are giving you youtube view counts and youtube link to subscribe! Thats pure promotional news. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 20:07, 11 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete All the current coverage is early stage PR. No secondary refs available. Nothing really.   scope_creep Talk  05:33, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Bangladesh. Shellwood (talk) 07:21, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

* Keep: I feel it meets notability standards. I made a couple of edits in the beginning so that it sounds more neutral. JRed176 (talk) 19:45, 11 January 2023 (UTC) - WP:SOCKSTRIKE - Beccaynr (talk) 00:29, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - Most of those references are from The Daily Star, which is currently the best selling English-language newspaper in Bangladesh and should be considered as stand-out coverage.Abbasulu (talk) 13:55, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * As i said below, you have to provide significant covarage. Interview masquerading-as-an-article or press release isn't significant covarage, that's primary sources (Also i am sensing canvassing here, probably) আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 15:38, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * definitely canvassing. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 15:46, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * This is not canvassing, I am not in any way or form asking to take sides. I am just asking to contribute and share views on this matter, not influencing decisions. Abyan Malek (talk) 19:06, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Seems like canvassing to me. He is asking you to vote on his Afd, you are asking him to yours. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 19:48, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't see anything wrong with that. None of us have influenced each other's decision on sharing our points of views. Abyan Malek (talk) 20:05, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - Despite citing only primary sources, I consider the subject matter of this article to have future potential merits, in which case it is better to move the article back to draft space, postponing its publication until having secondary and sufficient number of references.FriendofRafid (talk) 14:51, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Ignoring reliable or not, References 1 to 3, 5 & 7 are interview (primary), Reference 4 & 6 also interview masquerading-as-an-article. I am not sure how that fulfill WP:GNG, WP:CREATIVE. Please provide significant covarage. Interview masquerading-as-an-article or press release isn't significant covarage. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 15:53, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * How it meets notability standards when there is zero independent covarage? Another new user. I wonder is there any offline canvassing going on? আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 19:57, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Please try to understand and I want to make this very very clear. There is no canvassing going on. I don't even know this user. Abyan Malek (talk) 20:02, 11 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete: I have to agree with the above points that while sources in this article like The Daily Star are most likely reliable, the coverage they provide for this artist is primarily interviews, and the information in those articles can be difficult to call reliable secondary coverage for various reasons. Unless more independent non-interview coverage is available (I'm assuming not given none has been presented thus far here), I don't see this subject showing the required notability at this time. QuietHere (talk) 06:40, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree but I would like to request to move it back to the draft space, it has just one missing factor which can be found through the course of time. I have added a source that may most possibly be a secondary source: https://himitsu.audio/dameer/ Abyan Malek (talk) 15:45, 12 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete Interviews and PR coverage. Nothing special. Maybe a case of too soon but he could be notable after a few years. He is very young.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 12:34, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Draftify: The creating editor has requested draftification, which is a strong driver for this outcome. Current referencing is poor, majoring in interviews with Khan, but this may mature in Draft space. There is almost sufficient verified notability, but I view it as currently being on the wrong side of the threshold to keep. Arguably WP:TOOSOON 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 13:11, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Draftify as per the article creator's request as there is some promise such as the addition of two NME references since nomination, Atlantic306 (talk) 22:01, 15 January 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.