Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Damián A. Fernández Beanato


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The result was   delete. - Philippe 20:04, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Damián A. Fernández Beanato

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Fails to meet these criteria. Working as a common journalist in an important magazine doesn't make you notable. Besides, this guy is the person who created this page (User:Damfb and I have reasons to think that he is also User:Paleofreak, who created the pages Buenos Aires International Book Fair and Fernando Novas). But, apart from that, he doesn't meet these criteria. I'm a journalist from Argentina, I work at Clarín and this person "is NOT regarded as an important figure nor is widely cited by their peers or successors". Besides, in the Newsweek Argentina article in Spanish wikipedia, it says that this guy works there as a "corrector". I keep looking: this guy says he published articles in Clarín, but I searched Clarín.com (you can search by article author), and I didn't found any article written by him. PeterCantropus (talk) 19:45, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
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 * Answer: You can find thousands of ANSA articles in Clarín, the newspaper does not give credit to individual writers. But you are right there is no way to check it out. --Miotroyo (talk) 17:31, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, so everybody that works in an International News Agency could say that he writes articles for Clarin, and it's not like that. If you work for ANSA, you work for ANSA, not for Clarin. So, this guy is saying that he works for Clarin, when he isn't. That alone should be enough to delete the article: is an article written by the subject himself, full of exagerations trying to acquire notability. He says he wrote the novel La Orden de los Mundos Libres. Maybe that novel is written, I assure you it isn't published. --PeterCantropus (talk) 21:05, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Peter, don't say what's not true: the article never says that Fernández Beanato works for Clarín.--Miotroyo (talk) 19:54, 28 June 2008 (UTC)


 * It says "he published several articles in Clarín", and that's misleading. Of course, maybe some article he wrote while working for ANSA were reproduced by Clarin (you can't prove it), but that's part of working at a News Agency. "Publishing articles in Clarin" means you work for Clarin. If it's not a lie, it's an exageration. But even if you worked at Clarin, that doesn't make you notable either. I DO work at Clarin (if you search my surname in clarin.com archives you WILL come up with a lot of articles), and still I'm not notable, and writing an article about myself in Wikipedia would be very stupid. --PeterCantropus (talk) 20:46, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Keep looking: the user Damifb was expelled from the Spanish wikipedia, you can check it here. And Miotroyo probably is the same guy. He's the only one that edited this article, along with Damifb and Paleofreak, and he removed the notability tag that Nancy added to the article. Besides, according to this section in his talk page, he tried to list this guy as an atheist in List of atheists article. Of course he couldn't prove it, because his opinions weren't published anywhere. (For the English speaking wikipedians: "Miotroyo" means "My other self") --PeterCantropus (talk) 21:14, 27 June 2008 (UTC) 
 * Delete. Non-notable journalist. And his other accomplishment, winning a minor short-story contest, does not make him notable either. Qworty (talk) 21:56, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel J. Leivick (talk) 23:08, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. Non-notable journalist -- notability not proved. Bigdaddy1981 (talk) 00:20, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete the award is not for his journalism. Nothing else relevant to notability. DGG (talk) 23:52, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - I think he can be notable under criterion number 3 of WP:CREATIVE, and if the award is not for journalism, so what, he's also listed as an author.--Paleofreak (talk) 21:33, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - I think there's something you don't (or don't want to) understand about WP:CREATIVE. In the point 3, it says that your work should be "the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews". It doesn't mean that if you wrote "multiple independent periodical articles or reviews" you are notable. It means that if "multiple independent periodical articles or reviews" were written ABOUT YOU, you are notable. Got the difference? --PeterCantropus (talk) 23:37, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete - no reliable sources about the subject to indicate notability -- Whpq (talk) 16:18, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - this is just an average journalist almost unknown in Argentina. By the way, Newsweek Argentina is also a non mainstream publication in Argentina. Barcex (talk) 14:42, 5 July 2008 (UTC)


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