Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dan Besse


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was keep. Argument per WP:N is pretty strong.-- Kubigula (talk) 02:49, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Dan Besse

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Previously speedy deleted; consensus at Deletion review/Log/2008 February 7 was to restore and list at AfD. Sources are included at the linked deletion review. Issues to be considered include notability and possible violation of WP:NPOV. Neutral nomination. Chick Bowen 05:55, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I did not check out the DRV debate so I'll probably just repeat what was said there.
 * a) Never mind the notability guidelines, the question is "is there sufficient reliable coverage to construct a decent article"?
 * b) Is there a way to impose NPOV.

I'd say yes to a) and I don't think one can seriously argue that sources are lacking. As for b), I think it's doable but the article needs an entire re-write (random example: "on which he has fought to expand North Carolina's use of clean, renewable energy" is definitely slanted). I'd propose keeping and stubifying the article. If similar problems reoccur, delete: we can't let Wikipedia be hijacked by public relations offices of minor political figures. Pichpich (talk) 06:45, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The article should not be deleted, since the subject is notable, due to his status as a major candidate for Lt. Governor. It should be improved.  I hope to work on it. Awbeal (talk) 13:54, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete as non-notable. Notability guidelines specify that candidacy for office is not sufficient for notability. I don't see anything else in the current article to achieve notability. --AndrewHowse (talk) 14:49, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Undecided City Councilman in Winston-Salem NC, pop. 223,000. We've accepted city councilman in smaller cities before that. I'm not sure that's right--I would put the cutoff at perhaps half a million population.On the other hand, I would accept major party nominees for national legislatures and state governorships, but not for lesser offices. He would not qualify there because, first, he's not yet even his party's nominee., and 2nd, if he wins the nomination it would still just be for lieutenant governor. We really might do well t os et some simple fixed standards so we wouldnt have to go case by case this way.  DGG (talk) 02:56, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Ry an P os tl et hw ai te  18:43, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep - WP:N per precedent as city councillor from a large city. Plenty of WP:RS. Bearian (talk) 01:45, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep due to coverage by reliable sources. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 02:01, 22 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.