Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dan Moran


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The result was keep. Withdrawn by nominator with no opposition. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 22:37, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Dan Moran

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Does not appear to meet WP:ANYBIO, does not appear to meet standards for notability. I've checked the sources present and many sources on google and they amount to trivial mentions. While Conoco is certainly notable, it does not appear that Moran is on his own. The article was originally submitted and then draftified at Draft: Dan Moran for lack of encyclopedic tone and sources / notability, then recreated as a new article here by the same editor. A S U K I T E 19:04, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Nomination withdrawn: I'm convinced by the current "Keep" arguments, which include sources I did not see upon nomination. Seeing no need to drag this process out further, I seek to withdraw my nomination. Thanks to the other editors for their work in defending this article. A S U K I T E 04:08, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
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Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.  This is a 10,000 word article published in Fortune in 1939 that profiles Dan Moran's work at Continental Oil. The articles notes in the first paragraph: "Until the summer of 1928, when he was invited to 23 W all Street for lunch, Dan Moran had not given much though to the firm of J. P. Morgan & Co. Born at Cygnet, Ohio, he had picked up cash as an office boy and as a telegraph operator, earned his way through the University of Dayton, and then had gone south. To Tulsa, where he saw the oil spout from the Glenn Pool strike, then to Port Arthur, where he signed up as an engineer for the Texas Co. From there he was sent down to Panama and to South America, and from South America he had trekked north again into Mexico and to the States. By the summer of '28 he had done a number of things that are not common practice in Manhattan or on Long Island. He had got good work out of a crew of jailbirds and peons at Tampico. He had spent seventeen days in a hurricane on an oil barge. He had helped repair the ravages of another hurricane, which, ripping through Port Arthur, had floated away the oil tanks of the Texas Co.'s refinery there like so many toy ships. He had built refineries, drilled for oil, and had put up ocean terminals at Charleston, at Savannah, Pensacola, Mobile, Key West, and in Cuba. And in the process he had learned something of men and something of the sweet-smelling stuff called crude." The article further notes: "BEHIND those figures lie the work of the 5,000 men and the $125,000,000 worth of oil derricks, pipe lines, and properties that Dan Moran manages for $75,000 per year. And it is worth while inquiring into how he earns that salary, not only because he is a crack operator, but because Continental occupies a peculiar place in the oil industry." The article later notes: "On properties he kept in operation Moran insisted on strict economies. When he took over the company he was appalled by the unused equipment lying around refineries and oil wells. Turning junkman, he gathered up as much of this as possible, sent salesmen out on the road hawking it for what they could get. In one respect only was he lavish: from '31 to '34 he figures he spent some $1,500,000 in paint alone. changing many a dilapidated-looking derrick of the Marland Co. into a spruce operating unit."   The obituary notes: "Petroleum industry careerist Dan Moran, 59, who for nearly two decades headed the Continental Oil company, died April 3 in a Houston hospital. Rites were held in Houstin April 5 and burial was there." The article is an extensive obituary of Dan Moran. "Dan Moran Dies in Hospital After Several Months' Illness" (pages 1 and 2). The Ponca City News. 1948-04-04. Archived from the original (pages 1 and 2) on 2021-06-20. Retrieved 2021-06-20 – via Newspapers.com. The article is an extensive obituary for Dan Moran. The article notes: "Moran was born at Cygnet, Ohio, on May 31, 1888, one of the four sons of Mr. and Mrs. Martin Moran, who followed their father in the petroleum industry. ... Dan got his start in the oil industry at the age of [illegible] at which time he was messenger boy for the Buckeye Pipe Line company. Earning a bachelor of arts degree, Dan Moran was graduated from the University of Dayton, Ohio, in 1907, and later did graduate work at the Case School of Applied Science in Cleveland, Ohio."  The article notes: "Fate in the guise of ill health has forced the retirement of Dan Moran, for nearly 20 years president of Continental Oil company. In the retirement Ponca City loses a warm friend, Continental a great executive and the oil industry a forceful, fearless and intelligently aggressive leader. He along with a group of young men who came into the industry about the time of World War I placed it at the top among American business institutions and remained with it to see it become the premier world business." </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Dan Moran to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 01:11, 20 June 2021 (UTC) </li></ul>
 * Note to closer for soft deletion: This nomination has had limited participation and falls within the standards set for lack of quorum. There are no previous AfD discussions, undeletions, or current redirects and no previous PRODs have been located. This nomination may be eligible for soft deletion at the end of its 7-day listing.
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 01:06, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. While the current state of the article leaves much to be desired, sufficient coverage exists to satisfy WP:GNG. In addition to the detailed obituaries and Fortune profile listed above, Moran is the central figure in a 2 page story in Sidewalks of America (1954), excerpted from Then Came Oil: The Story of the Last Frontier (1936), and there are over 100 hits for Dan Moran in oil industry trade journals at the Internet Archive.  An encyclopedia article doesn't need to be long to be complete, neutral, and well written: there are enough reliable, independent sources chronicling his life and career to make a decent article without invoking original research. --Animalparty! (talk) 03:13, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * However, while I think the subject meets notability guidelines, the laudatory, padded, magazine-style profile at Draft:Dan Moran is not appropriate nor encyclopedic in its current form. --Animalparty! (talk) 03:22, 21 June 2021 (UTC)


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