Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Danica Uljević


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 00:45, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

Danica Uljević

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Fails WP:NSPORT, no evidence that she passes WP:GNG, the creator was previously blocked but apparently decided to continue disruption. Ymblanter (talk) 20:04, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.   CAPTAIN RAJU  (✉)   20:41, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete Per WP:ATHLETE. Comatmebro  User talk:Comatmebro 20:49, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment The creator was blocked,, but there is a group of editors who have sought and received permission to clean up the articles & attempt to save them. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:20, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * : The original creator, SvG, is not blocked. Indeed the group of editors was doing a trial cleanup, and I was in that group. The trial is over, and all remained articles have been delete. The creator of this article, User:Beatley, was performing low-quality work, once had all their moves reverted back to the draft space, and, when they continued, they were indefblocked and topic-banned from participating in the cleanup. I then unblocked them. They have chosen to continue. Formally it is a new creation, not a topic ban, which likely means they are evading their topic ban by saving a large amount of articles somewhere off-wiki and posting them now directly to the article namespace (thereby also violating copyright).--Ymblanter (talk) 05:36, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Can you explain why you see this as a copyright violation? Not supporting the work around the block - but I don't see how it can be classified as a copyright violation without further explanation. Both this and Dalina Bocour are legit articles, with working refs - which was one of the main tasks of reviewing the SvG cleanup articles. Hmlarson (talk) 15:37, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * My point is not that it is not legit, just that it is not notable. However, the additional point is that the article was originally most likely created by SvG - who is not currently credited in the history.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:39, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Whether the subject of the article is notable is debatable since there is no volleyball-specific guideline and this player has played for her national team at at least one international tournament noted in the article. Classifying this as a copyright violation seems borderline slanderous IMO. Further, since all the SvG drafts that were not reviewed and re-published were deleted, SvG may not be in the page histories of any re-created in the future. Hmlarson (talk) 16:07, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * My reading of NSPORTS is that to be notable, she must participate in the Olympics or in the highest competition in her sports, which is again Olympics, or, if not, the World Championship. I think this is sufficient for deletion, and this is why I nominated the article. Furthermore, I am obviously aware of the fact that all SvG drafts were deleted because I deleted them myself. Still, Beatly obviously and very clearly uses the texts of SvG drafts - you can see it from the fact that in their "new" articles the categories are commented out, like they were in the draft space. By doing so they (i) evade their topic ban; (ii) they post articles written by someone else (SvG) as their own articles. This is copyright violation. For that, I blocked them indef. They are obviously unhappy but so far showed little interest in following unblock procedures.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:22, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Please read Copyrights. Hmlarson (talk) 16:29, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I do not see where it says it is ok to publish somebody else's text without attribution.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:42, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep and merge with previous draft if needed Since there is no volleyball guideline and this player has played for the Croatia national team and at least one international tournament as noted in the article. Article could use expansion, not deletion per WP:ATD. Seems a Volleyball notability guideline would be a good addition as well. Other sports including WP:FOOTY include any player who has played for a national team at international level. Hmlarson (talk) 16:45, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * comment sorry for my mistakes above, ! I was aware of the rescue project, but not with everyone involved (and I'm always bad with names). Should have done more digging. I did a bit of a strike out above. Thanks for being patient with my mistakes. ;) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:37, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure, no problem.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:49, 4 May 2017 (UTC)


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