Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daniel Baradza


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The result was delete. Stifle (talk) 08:09, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Daniel Baradza

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Artist doesn't have third-party source given and none can be found. Therefore, it fails WP:GNG. Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 16:31, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete as I could not find independent RS. That said, there is a problem built into our notability rules in that they favour countries with strong independent media. The quantity of independent reporting that comes out of a place like Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Zambia or similar southern African countries is miniscule compared to the volume of reporting coming out of countries in the northern hemisphere.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 16:59, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Because we urgently need to apply our notability guidelines strictly and rigorously, especially when it involves Black people from southern Africa, on which we have such an abundance of articles that we need to start culling. God forbid we tackle video game companies without any references since 2010 or something like amateur handball players from the Netherlands with 1 ref to a sport stat site. My irony meter just exploded. Anyway, he has an entry in and, so that's a Keep Vexations (talk) 18:51, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , page number? Also, I did not target this subject. I've just gone through random articles clicking "random article." --Tyw7</i> (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 19:14, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I didn't mean we have to apply the guidelines rigorously, I mean we have to apply them uniformly. I tend to trust your views and judgement without question... but how long are the book entries, just for my own edification? 19:30, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * It wasn't directed at you, and I made a mistake. I saw the entry in Pieces of Time and misquoted the Encyclopedia of Twentieth-Century African History. The entry in Pieces of Time either shows or doesn't show, depending on how you access google books, so unless I can dig it up in a Library that isn't going to happen, that doesn't help either. My bad. My point, I suppose is this. Looking for articles to delete and targeting Black subjects as has just happened with Charles Backford exemplifies the systemic exclusion of Black subjects from the encyclopedia. Insisting that we treat everybody equally when we know so well that white subjects have an incredible advantage is perpetuating racist practices. Seriously, go after video game companies without sources instead. The only problem with doing that is that it would overwhelm AfD.  Vexations (talk) 20:31, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * OK thanks for that. Just to be clear, there was no targeting of this subject. As Tyw7 said, they found it randomly. I'd actually be right on the subject of African artists if I could find enough sources... which gives me an idea. I may start looking at African-continent Museum collections. Thanks for your source research.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 20:45, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep Covered in multiple books . Vexations, articles about non notable companies and people are submitted for deltion at the rate of hundreds per day, have a look at Articles for deletion/Log/2020 June 7. Its completely understandable that a 1 paragraph page with 0 sources would be submitted, it happens over 100 times a day. If there are pages with no sources then why not request they be deleted via WP:PROD or WP:SPEEDY. If you think that pages about Africans should be judged differently (possibly legitimately as sources could be in other languages) then why not take this to WP:VPP. AlessandroTiandelli333 (talk) 21:20, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I've always taken pages to XFD rather than PROD or speedy. So there's no bias there ie I have not treated this page different just because of the subject's race. Also, I can't see the contents of the book.  Are they passing mentions or in-depth discussions? --<i style="font-family:'Rock salt','Comic Sans MS'; color: Green;">Tyw7</i> (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 21:22, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm willing to be swayed to k*ep here, which is why I checked that book link. The Google books results routinely provide books on related subjects that don't have the search term in them, or have one of the words (e.g. has "Daniel" but does not have "Baradza"). On the first page of my results for your Google Books link (Google customizes results based on your location and their magic algorithm), I get one book that mentions him, three Wikipedia-based books and the rest do not seem related. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 21:51, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete not even close to the level of sourcing we would not to justify having an article on a sculptor. Wikipedia is not meant to right wrongs. If scultors of certain nationalities, races or combinations of the two are under represented in reiable sources of sculptors we can not ignore reliable sources and great articles on them. The place to right such uneven coverage is in the pages of journals that cover sculptors, not in Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a place for a person to go to publish research.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:12, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:GNG. WP is not a place to WP:RGW or publish WP:OR, as JPL articulates above. <b style="color: White">b</b><b style="color: White">uidh</b><b style="color: White">e</b> 19:19, 15 June 2020 (UTC)


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