Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daniel James (boxer)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Randykitty (talk) 21:00, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Daniel James (boxer)

 * – ( View AfD View log  Stats )

Non-notable boxer does not meet WP:NBOX PRehse (talk) 10:52, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Boxing-related deletion discussions. PRehse (talk) 10:53, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep while I respect the guidelines at WP:NBOX, I think he does actually meet the overall WP:GNG. Coverage in multiple sources that isn't trivial and this is hardly a spam stub. I rather like it, it presents the facts and doesn't embellish. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 14:32, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 19:26, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Trinidad and Tobago-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 19:26, 1 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. Champion of the West Indies, significant coverage in Michael Anthony's book The Making of Port-of-Spain: Port-of-Spain in a World at War, 1939-1945. --Michig (talk) 08:44, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I couldn't find a copy of that book and it's apparently out of print. I did see that the Paria Publishing website says they don't publish books, but they do aid self-publishers. I have to question the reliability of the source and I see no way to verify the source or coverage. Papaursa (talk) 01:03, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Boxrec doesn't even show he fought for a West Indies title. Since he didn't turn pro until 1945 I'm surprised by the claim he received "significant coverage" in a book covering 1939-1945, though it is a local book of unknown reliability.Sandals1 (talk) 17:55, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete Clearly doesn't meet WP:NBOX, so let's look at the sources given for meeting WP:GNG. The Afro-American encyclopedia has 2 sentences--one that he was from Trinidad and the second says he became a professional boxer in 1945. The T&T Guardian article mentions him in passing as losing twice to one of the fighters they're discussing. The T&T Newsday article is his obituary, I can't access the "First Citizen Sports Foundation" (whatever that is) link, and the Kingston Gleaner mention is in the local sports section.  Sorry, but I just don't see coverage to show WP:GNG is met. Papaursa (talk) 01:03, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, DannyS712 (talk) 00:15, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep for now - Impressive record in his own country - Gentle Daniel boxing record Karl Twist (talk) 13:34, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
 * What impressive record? He won 1 of his 4 fights for the national light heavyweight title and that was the inaugural fight for that title between two first year professionals. That title was only fought for 7 times in history and he was in four of them. It was 27 years before another fight for that title after Gentle Daniel. Talk about a minor title!Sandals1 (talk) 17:55, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * delete Non-notable boxer. There's nothing to show he meets WP:NBOX (see my comments above). Nobody has shown there's significant independent coverage from reliable sources to meet the GNG.Sandals1 (talk) 17:55, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 00:42, 16 February 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.