Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Danielle Solange Curzon


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The result was keep. The later comments have established her notability as a bodyguard. Deryck C. 22:04, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Danielle Solange Curzon

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The only sourced claim of notability is being the only child of a viscount and notability is not inherited. Her junior equestrian success would probably not be notable, even if sourced, since junior championships are rarely considered notable (unless accompanied by success as an adult). The kickboxing claim's notability would depend on the event (and sources). Jakejr (talk) 06:44, 31 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Jakejr (talk) 06:44, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 14:47, 31 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - I've been tossing around the idea of nominating this, and had just never gotten around to it... Per the nom, notability is not inherited, and junior equestrian success is not notable (in general, equestrians become notable through participating in the Olympics or World Equestrian Games, or continued success at the next lowest level (European Championships, etc)). The kickboxing thing could bring notability, but I have not been able to find out the level of this event (was it really the world championships for the entire sport of kickboxing? or just one association? or just one group who decided to put on an event and call it a world championships?), whether or not she participated, and what her level of success was. After a couple of web searches, I have been able to find no significant coverage in reliable, third-party sources. Dana boomer (talk) 19:30, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - See sources below, several reliable sources that address the topic in detail are available. Northamerica1000 (talk) 14:08, 9 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete There are no sourced claims of notability, nor did I find any when I searched. I think Dana's comments pretty much sum things up for this AfD. Astudent0 (talk) 19:33, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - See sources below, several reliable sources that address the topic in detail are available. Northamerica1000 (talk) 14:07, 9 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep Notable as the first female Mixed Martial Arts referee in the United Kingdom. Searching for "Danielle Curzon" has found significant coverage in reliable third party sources including The Sun (UK) and these |en&tbb=1&ie=ISO-8859-1. Scottdrink (talk) 21:25, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't see grounds for notability. There is nothing notable about being a female bodyguard, even if it's for famous people (who else hires a bodyguard?)--see WP:NOTINHERITED.  That's what most of her coverage is about.  I don't think being an MMA referee is grounds for notability, either.  Finally, I found she won a silver at the WUMA world championships.  WUMA is a primarily British martial arts organization and her silver medal came from coming in second out of two entries (she lost to another English fighter). Papaursa (talk) 00:27, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - See sources below, several reliable sources that address the topic in detail are available. Northamerica1000 (talk) 14:07, 9 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. I had thought this was borderline until I saw the coverage in the Sun - this is the coverage required of WP:GNG. StAnselm (talk) 08:50, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - This topic passes WP:GNG, per significant coverage in reliable sources:
 * The Sun article
 * Corriere Della Sera article
 * Daily Echo article
 * Yahoo News article and interview
 * — Northamerica1000 (talk) 14:03, 9 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete I found nothing to show she's notable as an equestrian, kickboxer, or bodyguard. As far as the sources go: the Corriere Della article is just a reprint of the Sun article, the Daily Echo article is a local newspaper about a martial artist teaching classes (hardly unusual), the Yahoo article is from the "Yahoo! Contributor Network, where users like you are published on Yahoo! every day"--in other words it's more of a blog than a reliable source.  Also, that's the only place that claims she's the first female MMA ref in the UK--she just claims to be the first to work for the UCMMA.  The Sun article is a valid source, although I'm not over the moon about calling Murdoch's tabloid a "reliable source." Mdtemp (talk) 16:06, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - Actually, the the Corriere Della article is not a reprint of the Sun article whatsoever. The articles contain entirely different text. The Corriere Della article mentions The Sun coverage as part of it's context, and makes mention of a Sun webpage and uses a quote from The Sun article. Otherwise, there is significant information in the Corriere Della article that is not present whatsoever in The Sun article. Northamerica1000 (talk) 08:12, 10 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep Significant coverage in reliable sources has been found. WP:GNG has been met.   D r e a m Focus  22:33, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, causa sui (talk) 20:56, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Keep While she may not be notable for her other fields, Sun article proves WP:GNG for her as a bodyguard. User:A412 (Talk * C) 23:55, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Armbrust, B.Ed. Let's talk about my edits? 17:08, 19 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Weak keep. Per GNG.--Epeefleche (talk) 18:04, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - if she's happy being notable as Bouncer to the Stars, I guess that's WP:GNG satisfied. Classy? No. In the popular press? Yes. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:59, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
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