Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daria Onyschenko


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The result was no consensus. Do note that WP:AUTHOR #3 makes WP:NOTINHERITED an invalid rebuttal to coverage of the author's work. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 02:48, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Daria Onyschenko

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The subject seems to fail NBIO. Prod removed due to "award winning", but the awards don't seem major, and the entire article is referenced (BLP issues). The article seems pretty promotional, too, and has major tone issues (a section entitled "interesting fact"...). WP:TNT level. My BEFORE did not find anything helpful. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 09:47, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ukraine-related deletion discussions. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  09:47, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete not enough sourcing to pass GNG.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:33, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep there are plenty of sources about the subject and her work, which is impressive due to her relatively short career so far, including some sources in English. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aymatth2 (talk • contribs) 04:57, June 30, 2020 (UTC)
 * Source, not sources, in English (I see you presented only one: ). This profile is on a reliable site, but it is also very short, and those kind of profiles are almost always written by the subject upon request from the website hosting them, so I don't think it is RS (SPS). The other sources seem similar, at best what we get as a WP:INTERVIEW. Do let me know if you find any source that is not an interview, that is reliable, and that contains in-depth discussion of the subject. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  03:07, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Midpoint Institute: Biography of subject
 * Above the Line GmbH: Filmography and biography of subject
 * Swiss Films: Short bio.
 * Ukrainian Institute: Snippet: "the jury awarded the Ukrainian-Swiss film "Forgotten" directed by Daria Onyshchenko with the prize"
 * Deutsche Welle: Short biographical introduction followed by interview. The interview is not a good source for information about the subject, but does contribute to notability.
 * Нове Українське Кіно (New Ukrainian Cinema): Interview, ditto
 * Ukrayina Moloda: Lengthy review of the subject's film The Forgotten, with biographical material
 * Нове Українське Кіно (New Ukrainian Cinema): Review of The Forgotten at the Warsaw Film Festival
 * Kyiv International Film Festival "Molodist": Description, cast, crew etc of The Forgotten
 * In-Art: Description of Forgotten, some biographical info, e.g. Daria Onishchenko's first debut film, Istalgia, won many prizes at international film festivals and was widely distributed in several countries.
 * LB.ua: Review of Forgotten, special award at the Warsaw Film Festival
 * Львівська Поштa (Lviv Post): Lengthy description of Forgotten.
 * Consulate General of Ukraine in Munich: Program for show of best Ukrainian films of recent years. Short description of the subject's Istalgia
 * Galinfo: Pre-production description of the subject's film Malevich
 * Нове Українське Кіно (New Ukrainian Cinema) Review of Malevich
 * Media Business Reports: Discussion of Malevich and interview
 * There are many similar sources. Obviously the subject is mainly known for The Forgotten, which could use an article in its own right, but Istalgia and Malevich have also drawn attention to her. Notable primarily for her work, like Homer. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:32, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I would seriously advise against comparing the subject to Homer. And I am sorry, I stand by my inital view of WP:TOOSOON, I don't see much except mentions in passing and minor awards. A number of your sources are about awards or reviews, primarily for the Forgotten, which also brings us to WP:NOTINHERITED. Maybe some of this could be rescued in the form of an article about that work, if anyone cares to write it, it may be notable even when the autor is not. Let's wait and see if we get more comments. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 13:45, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * This is a disingenuous misuse is NOTINHERITED. Of course artists inherit notability from their art. pburka (talk) 03:24, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

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 * Not always. Notability is inherited in certain circumstances for artists per WP:ARTIST. -- Danre98 ( talk ^ contribs ) 16:14, 14 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. I think this page can be kept because she has a moderate coverage in Russian language news, i.e. and Ukrainian sources (some of the links in discussion above). A number of the sources do not mention her just in passing, but provide more in-depth coverage. For example, this interview to Deutsche Welle or this.  My very best wishes (talk) 01:15, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * But keep WP:INTERVIEW in mind --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 02:08, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * It seems that sources tell a lot more about her movies than about her personally. However, this is an argument she probably passes WP:AUTHOR #3 (The person has created ... a significant or well-known work or collective body of work... such work must have been the primary subject of ... multiple independent periodical articles or reviews.) or #4 (The person's work ... won significant critical attention). My very best wishes (talk) 02:26, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, I do agree that the page is poorly written and essentially unsourced in the present state. However, based on the sources and links that appear during this AfD (see above), her life and especially her work were covered in multiple RS by 3rd parties. So, it can be sourced and improved. My very best wishes (talk) 22:54, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

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 * Delete Lack references. Does not pass General notability guidelines.  D My Son  03:48, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

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 * Delete per nom Devokewater (talk) 15:11, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
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