Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Darina Allen


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The result was keep. The keep votes providing examples of significant coverage have not been refuted and ~10 refs have been added to the article so 'unsourced BLP' concern has been addressed. (non-admin closure) Jenks24 (talk) 08:03, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Darina Allen

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Non-notable minor TV chef BLP; almost totally unsourced. Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  02:43, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
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 * Delete – She seems to be a familiar name in Ireland, but I'm having trouble finding substantial coverage by multiple WP:RS. For example, less than substantial coverage indicates she's regarded as something on the order of "Julia Child" or "Martha Stewart" in Ireland. I've found Reclaiming Ireland’s Culinary Heritage, One Roast Lamb or Sponge Cake at a Time (NY Times) and Author gives taste of Irish tradition (Seattle Times). There seems to be greater coverage of her husband (in which she is of course mentioned), but the most general notability seems to rest with the cooking school. I'm open to changing my vote, but I can't say she passes WP:GNG. JFHJr (㊟) 05:33, 21 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep: Surely she is notable enough having written several cooking books, been reported on though not extensively and running the Ballymaloe Cookery School. ww2censor (talk) 20:06, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep: Seems to me to be a highly noted Irish celebrity chef. Eg The Observer introduces her as Chef, writer, TV presenter and Irish foodie legend Darina Allen. The Limerick Post refers to her as one Ireland’s most "celebrated chefs". The University Observer: Pasteurise and Fall  12 November 2011 Has the line The group, which call themselves CRMI (Campaign for Raw Milk in Ireland) include acclaimed figures in traditional Irish cooking such as Darina Allen and Neven Maguire, and formidable food critics including Paulo Tulio. And The Good Food Channel describes her thus: Darina Allen owns and runs the internationally renowned Ballymaloe Cookery School in Ireland....is a bestselling author on Irish farmhouse cuisine and a leader of the slow food movement in Ireland.... She ... has presented nine series of her cookery programme "Simply Delicious" on television in Ireland. These seem supportive of the idea that she is notable enough for us. (Msrasnw (talk) 16:47, 22 November 2011 (UTC)) 10:54, 22 November 2011 (UTC))
 * PS- Ihave added some of these refs to the article which was longer before having been stubified due to lack of referencing prior to this Afd. (Msrasnw (talk) 21:28, 22 November 2011 (UTC))
 * PPS Also added Maeve Binchy's review of Allen's notable book. (Msrasnw (talk) 10:18, 23 November 2011 (UTC))


 * Keep: Sources are there.--Larp30 (talk) 16:15, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Allen exceeds the requirements of WP:BIO, as evidenced by the following sources—"Ireland Cooking Teacher Darina Allen Makes Nettle Soup" from Newsday, "Naturally OIrish New book explores County Cork cooking" from The Providence Journal, "Author and teacher is the 'Julia Child of Ireland'" from Times-Standard, "Author gives taste of Irish tradition" from The Seattle Times, "Real Food Pioneer: Darina Allen" and "Little Chef" from The Times, "Time honored food from Ireland's best, Darina Allen" from Irish Voice, "Sharing a love of Irish food" from St. Petersburg Times, "Noted Irish cook hailed for improving Eire fare" from The Boston Globe, and "Reclaiming Ireland’s Culinary Heritage, One Roast Lamb or Sponge Cake at a Time" from The New York Times (full-length article mostly about Allen). Goodvac (talk) 19:44, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
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