Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dark Garage


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete and salt. And note shocking incivility of only keep.  Jerry  talk ¤ count/logs 03:07, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Dark Garage

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Not enough to distiguish from UK Garage. nn music genre Kaini (talk) 21:32, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Just to expand on things a bit, I got involved in this AfD because of the repeated addition of the term to the Dubstep page. I know it's not the be all and end all of notability, but
 * google search on "dark garage" AND "dubstep" - about 2,410 results returned
 * google search on "UK garage" AND "dubstep" - about 528,000 results returned

I contend that there simply isn't enough to distinguish this genre from UK Garage or 2-step garage, and the article in present state doesn't outline what does distinguish it, or even outline its characteristics. Never going to be more than a variant on "it's UK garage, but darker" and a list of artists. --Kaini (talk) 22:16, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Man, fuck you. Your favourite pitchfork gives at least two remindings of dark garage SCENE (google pitchfork dark garage). Pitchfork is notable/reliable, aint you? It is the 1st.
 * Second, no one denies the existence of Dark psytrance, Dark Electro, etc darkshit. though to you logic they don't exist ("just a darker variation").
 * Third, i gave it a stub-level, it is to expand surely (if even not by me).
 * Fourth, you better watch your thing, like deleting redlinks from articles, putting non-existent references to it, and hiding a big piece of information on roots of your fav. dubstep.
 * Strong Keep -- Werwerwer11 (talk) 09:28, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hah, and also try to google ('dark garage' && 'grime'), ('dark garage' && 'beakbeat garage'), ('dark garage' && 'breakstep'), because it seems you are able to read it badly. -- Werwerwer11 (talk) 09:33, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * This is the second time I have had to tell you I won't tolerate being abused by you. Either remain civil or stop editing on wiki, those are your choices. And again, please read this policy - you seem to have a problem with me citing printed references such as The Wire (magazine) --Kaini (talk) 11:27, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't care, tell it on me -- 86.57.254.215 (talk) 11:38, 23 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong delete. Adding any arbitrary adjective to the name of a genre does not denote a new genre, something clearly reflected in that pitchfork article. No-one is denying that some garage tracks are "darker" than others, but such tracks still fall under the UK garage umbrella. Nothing in the pitchfork article indicates otherwise. Also, please don't replace the stylistic origins section on the Grime article with this term unilaterally, a group of us had gone through some considerable negotiations to get an acceptable consensus comprimise. Jdcooper (talk) 13:42, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * ...and likewise for the dubstep article, which went through a similar amount of tweaking regarding stylistic origins. --Kaini (talk) 19:05, 23 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Not notable enough for an enyclopedia. SWik78 (talk) 19:56, 23 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete per nominator and block whoever said "man, fuck you" above. (jarbarf) (talk) 21:12, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * he was blocked for 24 hours for numerous abusive comments, and doesn't appear to have come back to edit since. --Kaini (talk) 23:07, 27 April 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.