Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Darkhold


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Features of the Marvel Universe. Appropriate content may be merged to that article at editorial discretion. Avilich made a convincing case for deletion and the keep votes did not provide sufficient evidence that the subject passes GNG to rebut that argument. However, many of the keep voters and the nominator offered merge/redirect as a viable alternative; leading to a consensus to do so per WP:PRESERVE and WP:ATD. (non-admin closure) 4meter4 (talk) 04:08, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

Darkhold

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Fictional book, article is 99% plot summary and list of appearance, there is no reception or analysis. In January I prodded this with " The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing General notability guideline requirement nor the more detailed Notability (fiction) supplementary essay. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar." User:BOZ then proposed a merge to Features of the Marvel Universe - but sadly, did not start a discussion. PROD was removed by User:Haleth due to "merge has been proposed", but again, no discussion was carried out (I was also not notified of deprodding nor of the merge proposal, despite my request for such a notification). The lonely merge tag was killed by an IP in March. Since the merge discussion failed, as did the PROD process, I think it is time to discuss this here. I am not opposed to a merge of the few key points to the proposed target, but I don't think this has enough recognition/significance (notability...) to stay as a stand-alone article. PS. The best source I found was but it's just a plot summary, and it's focus in not on Darkhold but on AIDA (List_of_Marvel_Comics_characters:_A). The book is just a prop that merits inclusion in a list (assuming said list is notable, btw... - but that's for another discussion). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 09:32, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
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 * Keep if more sources can be found, otherwise merge to Features of the Marvel Universe per WP:ATD and WP:PRESERVE. BOZ (talk) 12:14, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep This has had its own comic – Darkhold: Pages from the Book of Sins – and it has just started another run – Darkhold Alpha. As it has shown up in a variety of other places including the MCU, it clearly merits a page to track all this.  Applicable policies include WP:ATD; WP:NOTPAPER; WP:PRESERVE, not to mention WP:MAGIC; WP:SPELL; and WP:DEVIL.  Andrew🐉(talk) 15:34, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Whether that comics notable, I am not sure. I have no objection if someone would like to create a page about it. But here we are discussing a fictional book. That it appeared in a bunch of Marvel-related works doesn't make it notable for Wikipedia - we are not Marvel fanwiki. Which is why plenty of other locations that appeared in various Marvel or DC works but did not generate reception outside their fictional worlds have been deleted over the years. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 09:31, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Features of the Marvel Universe, per WP:NOTPLOT and WP:GNG, current sources are a mix of primary sources and passing mentions. There does not seem to be anything that needs to be merged. Devonian Wombat (talk) 01:51, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per the information and suggestions by and . Besides, Chthon's recreated link in redirect form currently redirects there. Otherwise if there aren't enough keeps, Merge with Features of the Marvel Universe in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE. --Rtkat3 (talk) 03:13, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Per above. Maniik 🇮🇳Any Help🇮🇳? Contact Me. 03:17, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Per above. Dealmaces (talk) 22:13, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep, as the subject is sourced and pretty clearly meets the WP:GNG. BD2412  T 06:22, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment. While ATM the keeps are obviously dominant, I'd like to remind the closer that WP:AFDNOTAVOTE, and that votes WP:KEEPPER and WP:ITSNOTABLE are not particularly helpful. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 10:19, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Run-of-the-mill fictional object, from a time when WP had lower standards. Standard case of WP:NPLOT, WP:NOR and WP:IN-U. No decent account of real-world reception and commentary by independent secondary sources, and so fails WP:GNG. Avilich (talk) 22:12, 12 October 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.