Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Darren Budd


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   No Consensus defaulting to Keep, disagreement over whether or not the article meets the notability guidelines. Davewild (talk) 08:34, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Darren Budd

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Player fails notability at WP:Bio having never played in a fully-professional league. However, previous PROD was contested because he has international futsal caps. I am led to believe that these too do not make a player notable --Jimbo[online] 21:39, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related page moves. --Jimbo[online] 21:41, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - I would argue that Darren Budd is notable; Notability (people) states "The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field" while WP:ATHLETE states that "Competitors and coaches who have competed at the highest level in amateur sports." I would say that being an international player in a fast-growing sport gives notability. GiantSnowman 22:17, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete I'd say the highest level in international futsal is the FIFA Futsal World Championship. However England did not play in the competition (at least not in 2004), so WP:ATHLETE is invalid in this particular case. --Angelo (talk) 22:51, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete I'm going to go by N and say that a lack of significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject means that the subject fails to meet Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion in the encyclopedia. I am influenced here by the complete lack of ghits for "Darren Budd" +futsal in Google news. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 23:49, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - a quick Google search brings up the Eastbourne Herald and the Argus, which are both independent newspapers, as well as the FA and Middlesbrough Futsal... GiantSnowman 00:19, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep GiantSnowman's argument is convincing. Happydazer (talk) 14:28, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Ben Watson was deleted because it was deemed that futsal caps did not meet the criteria. --Jimbo[online] 16:59, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't think there's ever really been a proper discussion outside of that. A couple people in that AfD just seemed to disparage futsal as a sport. matt91486 (talk) 00:14, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep it may seem obscure but is this why we should delete this article. Anton Ego (talk) 16:40, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per Angelo. Punkmorten (talk) 21:42, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per GiantSnowman. I don't think the Ben Watson arguments are terribly convincing in that AfD either, since a lot of them boil down to just comments against the sport, which seems inappropriate. matt91486 (talk) 23:17, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.