Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Darwin Brown


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 01:55, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Darwin Brown

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 * Delete. Fails notability through WP:ONEEVENT. Just another crim with a lethal baseball bat. WWGB (talk) 08:15, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - Agree with WWGB, meets the WP:ONEEVENT criteria. ttonyb1 (talk) 12:13, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Don't delete. if a fair number of people know his name then I guess there shouldbe a page. 86.21.13.183 (talk) 10:52, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 10:59, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 10:59, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:ONEEVENT. Local news story for an executed murderer. No evidence of sustained, non-trivial RS coverage to distinguish the perp or the crime. • Gene93k (talk) 13:37, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * not to delete he has his page of why he was convicted and excuted for this is alot more than others — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.1.44.28 (talk • contribs)
 * Delete. Just another run of the mill WP:ONEEVENT killer. -- Rodhull andemu  18:19, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:ONEEVENT. It's pretty much all been said. Cheers, CP 21:24, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - My vote is to keep this page. Thanks.   (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 00:04, 25 January 2009 (UTC))
 * This is not a vote, but a discussion. MuZemike 03:25, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Pardon my improper semantics. I did not realize that we are prohibited from using the term "vote".  Let me re-phrase.  My vote opinion is to keep this page.  Thanks.   (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 05:11, 25 January 2009 (UTC))
 * OK, now that we know your vote opinion, would you care to indicate how the subject of the article meets the notability guideline? WWGB (talk) 08:24, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * To answer your question ... Wikipedia has not only articles, but actually categories ... such as "Category:People executed by Oklahoma" and "Category:People convicted of murder by Oklahoma". Both of those categories contain several articles about several individuals ... all "more or less" in the same boat.  That is, they were murderers from Oklahoma ... and they were executed by Oklahoma.  This particular individual, Darwin Brown, is no more nor less notable than all of those many, many others.  And ... as I stated ... those many, many others have not only pages/articles written about them ... but Wikipedia also has very focused and specific categories for this exact type of article.  Thanks.   (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 19:34, 26 January 2009 (UTC))
 * Delete, there is nothing specific or outstanding about the criminal, the crime or the execution. Aecis·(away) talk 12:39, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per notability to get into the news. Im also against the nominators choice of words "Just another crim with a lethal baseball bat".--Judo112 (talk) 14:31, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Crime and criminals are routinely reported in the news. Notability is based on durable interest, which is not shown here, not just a burst of news coverage. • Gene93k (talk) 14:56, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete The circumstances of the case are such that I wouldn't have been surprised had it become noteworthy by way of execution opponents pointing out he was so young (and, if the atorney is right, that others were the 'primary movers', whatever that means), but it doesn't seem to have. WP:ONEEVENT/WP:NOTNEWS seem to cover this. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:34, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Have to say Keep because of the high number of similar articles on wikipedia. And it seems sourced and not claimed.--MarkusBJoke (talk) 18:26, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Notion that there are other similar articles is not a valid argument; those others need to be viewed individually, and many of them should probably be removed as well. If the above reason were accepted, we would also need to include ever single execution world wide, including those performed daily in certain Middle Eastern countries, and that's not the case on this site. Furthermore, there is no corresponding article that includes a biography of the victim, and given the logic of the previous argument, there should have been one before the trial even took place. The main problem, however, is the addition of this person is purely an act of political grandstanding, which is against the basic principles of Wikipedia. The use of this person, and similar people, as a soapbox is supported by many of the keep statements, but most notably by the unsigned comment on the article's talk page Talk:Darwin Brown. Bottom line: the person is not any more worthy of note than the millions of average humans who die of automobile accidents or heart attacks, and therefore has no place on this site. This information (and the corresponding link from the 2009 notable deaths page ) should instead be sequestered to a capital punishment debate site, not here. --ADWNSW (talk) 20:04, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete The move to delete the Wikipedia entry of this person is not based merely on notability of the murderer, but more so on the effects of this tragedy that makes it notable. But please keep in mind that the deletion of the entry by no means marginalizes the victims.--TLD2000 (talk) 20:52, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.