Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DatPiff


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The result was keep. ✗ plicit  01:54, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

DatPiff

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Non-notable organisation. While there's likely a case to be made that the subject is notable in some fashion, the sources in the article do a spectacularly poor job of showing it, and I'm not finding much beyond passing mentions on Google (string: datpiff). I would love to be happy to be proven wrong about the lack of sources here, but as it sits right now there's nothing to work with. —A little blue Bori v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 11:45, 28 December 2021 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  13:23, 4 January 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  14:49, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 11:51, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
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 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Strong keep: The site is extremely influential in rap and as such has been covered in non-passing fashion by most of the major music publications that cover rap, more than enough to meet WP:WEBCRIT #1:
 * Pitchfork: https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/768-is-2015-the-end-of-the-golden-era-of-rap-djs/ (Pitchfork's The Pitch section has both essays and reported pieces; this is the latter, and the author is an established rap critic)
 * A longform interview in Complex -- by "longform" here I mean both that there is an editorial component before the actual interview, and an editorial decision to go long on it): https://www.complex.com/music/2019/10/datpiff-niche-interview-kp
 * Another writeup in Complex that is even more emphatic about its notability and influence in the rap world: "It’s impossible to imagine the last decade of rap music without considering the influence of DatPiff." https://www.complex.com/music/2014/12/the-minds-behind-musics-biggest-tech-advances-in-the-last-10-years/marcus-frasier-founder-ceo-of-datpiff
 * Billboard: https://www.billboard.com/music/rb-hip-hop/mixtapes-money-hip-hop-shadow-economy-mainstream-7669109/
 * Spin (a passing mention, but worth noting since it is another established rap critic calling it influential) https://www.spin.com/2013/01/how-free-culture-saved-hip-hop-in-2012/
 * Passion of the Weiss (a rap publication by an established critic/reporter), most is another interview but more than passing: https://www.passionweiss.com/2014/05/16/we-used-to-sell-mixtapes-an-interview-with-kp-reilly-of-datpiff-com/
 * The Forbes article mentioned (Forbes hosts a lot of crap, but this is by a New Yorker journalist): https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelhumphrey/2011/08/04/datpiff-how-love-for-mixtapes-grew-to-lil-wayne-levels/?sh=7e57ecaf1ab8
 * Et cetera. This is the level of notability where I didn't even have to google the site specifically, I just went on all the big music publications and there was coverage in every case. I will add these to the article later. Gnomingstuff (talk) 23:01, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Please and thank you. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 18:07, 13 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep Incredibly influential in hip hop music, as demonstrated by Gnomingstuff. It's pretty much a shorthand for "internet mixtape", per Mosi Reeves in Rolling Stone using the phrase "like a relic from the Datpiff era" in the magazine's review of Lil Wayne's Carter V. RoseCherry64 (talk) 11:02, 13 January 2022 (UTC)


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