Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dave Fipp


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 23:30, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Dave Fipp

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Non notable, assistant special teams coach. fails WP:Athlete. Contested PROD (on talk page), with reasoning: "In my opinion, since Mr. Fipp was a college football player who had a scholarship, was a College Football Defensive Coordinator, and has been an Asst. Special Teams Coordinator with two different teams, this article should be kept." Ravendrop (talk) 20:55, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:55, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:55, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Wikipedia is not the place to post a resume. Could possibly be notable for collegiate playing career--but it isn't in the article.  Open to revision should the article improve.--Paul McDonald (talk) 03:09, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Mr. Fipp has coached many notable players, which is a way to be included in Wikipedia. Also, he works with NFL players which are high profile. There is no way this should be deleted.Go Phightins! (talk) 22:23, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Curious can you show any policy, guideline, precedent, or any other measure where being the teacher/coach of a notable person automatically makes one notable? It sounds a lot like WP:NOTINHERITED, which states that notability is not inherited from other notable sources.--Paul McDonald (talk) 01:24, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes "Coaches are also assumed notable if they have coached many notable athletes" is specifically from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(sports)Go Phightins! (talk) 20:07, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Please check closer Those words do appear exactly as quoted, but under the track & field section. College and Pro football coaches typically have a higher requirement.  If I missed something, let me know.--Paul McDonald (talk) 20:33, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry You're right. However, we have articles for James Urban (Asst. Coordinator) and virtually every other NFL and CFB Asst. Coach. Fipp is the asst. head of special teams for a team with one of the best kickers, punter, and punt returner.72.70.147.89 (talk) 21:57, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Nice try. I wondered if this was true so I checked the Wikipedia status of the assistant coaches of my local team. Fewer than half of them have articles, and those that do had mostly either played at the professional level (automatic notability) or been a head coach at a major university (possibly notability). --MelanieN (talk) 02:19, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not ready to change my position because of that either. The other coaches likely met notability standards through other means, not because they were assistant pro coaches.--Paul McDonald (talk) 15:27, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 02:13, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Take a look at James Urban for example. (His article can be found here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Urban) He was a graduate asst. at Clarion University, he served as Asst. to Head Coach for the Eagles, and then was a Quality Control Coach. Now he is the Asst. Offensive Coordinator. Explain why there's an article for him, and why we can't have one for Dave Fipp. Go Phightins! (talk) 21:10, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Three responses: 1-It's there because you created that article; 2-it most likely shouldn't be on Wikipedia, I've proposed it for deletion; 3-WP:OTHERSTUFF states that just because other stuff exists does not mean that this article should.--Paul McDonald (talk) 21:55, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Non notable. He is a mid-level assistant coach at the professional level, and as such gets a certain number of mentions in the press, but nowhere near enough to satisfy WP:ATHLETE. His college career does not seem to make it either. --MelanieN (talk) 16:28, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Delete An assistant special teams coach? Please.  Blueboy96 21:55, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep: per Go - Ret.Prof (talk) 04:11, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - Mutch more pointing to notability. I say Keep Per Go:es reasoning.--BabbaQ (talk) 11:23, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.