Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dave McRae (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. Also deleted copyvio image on Commons.  Sandstein  19:03, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Dave McRae
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Promotional page for a non notable voice over artist/actor. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Awards is not major. duffbeerforme (talk) 10:46, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete non-notable voice actor.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:03, 1 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep Although there are few third party sources in terms of notable outlets at the moment, it's clear (by just one click on his website) that Dave McRae is a very notable voice actor. His work for Disney, NBC, Rogers, Cineplex Entertainment, and a load of other commercials, promos, and movie trailers is very clear and obvious. The award he was nominated for is absolutely a major award within the voice over industry. William Shatner, James Earl Jones, Malcum Jamal Warner, Joe Cipriano and many others have all received Voice Arts Awards. Beyonce and Ron Perlman have also received nominations. Here is a link from Variety on last years show. Variety. Here is also an article from Hollywood weekly. Hollywood Weekly. And a CBS affiliate article on this years awards. http://www.cbs58.com/story/32224491/society-of-voice-arts-and-sciences-announces-opening-of-award-entries-for-the-3rd-annual-voice-arts-awards, with a notable quote from Good Morning America calling the Voice Arts Awards "The Oscars® of voice-over acting". Here is also a link talking about the Muhammad Ali Voice of Humanity Honor which will be presented to a well-known world figure at this years show in Los Angeles. http://voiceoverxtra.com/article.htm?id=3KN27BCK. Mr. McRae's nomination from last year is mentioned via the link provided in the body of his article entitled "2015 Winners & Nominees- SOVAS". Mr. McRae's voice is heard all over North America (which is evident from the work on his website) and I will do my best to continue to look for third party information, sources, and evidence. It would be a shame to see his article deleted.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryan7931 (talk • contribs) 15:41, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Ryan, curious, would you happen to be Leah Kellar? duffbeerforme (talk) 04:02, 3 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi Duffbeerforme. No my name is Ryan Kennedy. Who is Leah Kellar? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryan7931 (talk • contribs) 05:35, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
 * As you are not Leah could you please explain why are you claiming as your own work a photo that is marked as copyright Leah Kellar . duffbeerforme (talk) 07:32, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Duffbeerforme. Thank you for supplying the link to the photo. I did upload this photo yes, but I am not Leah Kellar. I apologize, as I did not recognize the name when you mentioned it. When I uploaded the photo, I put "Own Work" because I was referring to the concept of the image (Dave McRae's own work), not the copyright itself. I found out about the image via his other website last year http://www.davemcrae.ca/main.php. Under October 2015 of the news section to the bottom right, it talks about this image (and I'm assuming others) being available for public domain. I gave the copyright credit to a Leah Kellar because that was the name attached to it under "Photo By" on his IMDb page. Clearly I misunderstood the reference, and understand completely if the image needs to be removed. That being said, I do encourage you to visit that part of his news section. I believe it's flash-based (as I just tried to access it via my phone and it didn't work) but does work from my desktop. I'm assuming a laptop will work too. However, If your phone can access flash-based webpages or flash-based items on a webpage you should be good to go. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryan7931 (talk • contribs) 10:39, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:16, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP:NACTOR is not passed just because of the number of roles that a person happens to have had — it is passed when, and only when, substantive reliable source coverage about him in at least some of those roles can be shown. But the sourcing here is entirely to primary sources and/or blogs, and those are not sources that can carry a person over a notability criterion. No prejudice against recreation in the future if and when somebody can source it better than this, but an actor is not automatically entitled to a Wikipedia article just because he exists if the sourcing for it is this weak. Bearcat (talk) 17:44, 8 September 2016 (UTC)


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