Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dave Moulton


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was keep.  howch e  ng   {chat} 16:41, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Dave Moulton
Author and bike builder of rather questionable notability. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 00:47, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Built pro racing bikes- has published a novel. -- JJay 01:53, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak delete as per nom. Only one booke whose Amazon rank 1,378,054 is low. Keep Vastly improved rewrite  Dl yo ns 493   Ta lk  02:12, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, seems a vanity page. --Thephotoman 07:00, 18 December 2005 (UTC) Keep per re-write.  --Thephotoman 21:37, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, only low Amazon rank, I got 1,864,385 Keep not the most notable person ever, but probably worthy of a Wikipedia entry. Article is much better after rewrite and no longer looks like vanity.--Bkwillwm 07:10, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Eusebeus 11:14, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and rewrite to avoid NPOV problems that seem to exist with the page at the moment. Notability irrelevant, not official Wiki policy.Jcuk 20:39, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Keep (Changed due to Crypticfirefly's rewrite) (although I'd suggest moving the page to the name of his company, if any, as that's the notable thing, not him personally) Notability doesn't have to be policy - it's a shorthand for - not what should be in an encyclopedia - that's not a subject for policy. JesseW, the juggling janitor 21:34, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
 * As far as I can tell, the name of his "company" was his own name-- he apparently operated the buisness as a sole-proprietorship-- there is no "company" name. "Fuso," etc. were just trademarks that he used.  I did put a reference to him on the "Fuso" disambig page, which may help. I should add also, that he did most if not all the work personally on the custom frames that he was most famous for. Crypticfirefly 08:19, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
 * commentshorthand for - not what should be in an encyclopeadia. Pretty much leaves me open to suggest every article I dont like gets nixed simply because I dont like it. There has to be a better criterion, personally I think verifiability is it. Jcuk 17:12, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Dave Moulton has definite credibility with certain bicycle enthusiasts. A 'Google' search confirms this. (Pick out entries related to bicycles.) Richard D 13:39, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Found an interesting article about the guy in the May 8, 1989 issue of San Diego Business Journal, may add more info myself. Crypticfirefly 05:33, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Okay, I've rewritten the article. Though I had never heard of the guy before, I can make the following arguments for "notability": (1) in the mid-70's was well-known in professional bike racing.  Many photos of British pros of the time can be found with their bikes prominently marked with Moulton's name.  If nothing else, people might want to look him up for that association.  (2) He was well known enough that people were ordering his bikes from other countries-- namely, the U.S.  (3) News articles refer to him as a well-nown "guru" of frame-making or as a master frame-maker.  Recent articles about other bike makers mention Moulton's association with their business.  (For example, Masi apparently is still commenting on the fact that he worked for them.)  Hope this helps. Crypticfirefly 07:18, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Very nice job. Moulton is an interesting guy. Thanks. -- JJay 07:28, 21 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Keep verifiable and reasonably notable within a limited locus; also to disambiguate from Alex Moulton and Moulton Bicycle. Just zis Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 14:09, 23 December 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.