Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Allen (actor/comedian)


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The result was   delete. Only a SPA argued for keep. No good evidence for passing WP:BIO. Fences &amp;  Windows  17:21, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

David Allen (actor/comedian)

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fails WP:BIO, the article is full of unreliable sources such as youtube and photo site links. could not find any in depth coverage of him. there is a "Actor-comedian David Allen Grier " which I'm not sure is the same person in any case this David also gets very limited coverage. LibStar (talk) 22:50, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - David Allen Grier is definitely a different person. I couldn't find anything to establish the subject's notability.  The name is fairly common and generated a lot of false positives.  Narthring (talk  • contribs) 03:17, 20 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - Most of this information is sited on his IMDB page. In addition, performer pages from 3rd party websites confirms much of this information. Youtube and Photo links should be changed. However, this is not relevant for deletion as most of this information is backed by MAJOR reputable sites. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.84.195.169 (talk) — 75.84.195.169 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * the 3rd party sources do not fall under reliable sources, we need major newspapers and news sites. LibStar (talk) 03:28, 20 November 2009 (UTC)


 * If that is the case, then your mission should be to have the HUNDREDS of other comedians sourced here deleted, as well, and not be focusing on just one. IMDB falls under a reliable source because it is privately maintained. At the very least, this article would remain and be reduced to the information from them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.84.195.169 (talk)


 * WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a reason for keeping this article. LibStar (talk) 03:52, 20 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I never noted that WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS was a reason for keeping this article. Our opinions have been stated. There are reliable sources here and their are unreliable sources here. Some source links need to be changed but the article, in whole, not deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.84.195.169 (talk)


 * The IMDb is a good place to start when looking for content, but the consensus is that it isn't a reliable source because just about anybody can add content to it without oversight. This issue has been brought up at the reliable sources noticeboard here, here, and most recently here.  The best way to save the article would be to find third party reliable sources that cover the subject with some depth, like perhaps a newspaper interview.  Implying that the article shouldn't be picked on because there are hundreds of other comedians with similar notability issues is why LibStar pointed out WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS.  I'm sure there are many comedians that need to be brought up for deletion because they don't pass notability, but they'll be taken care of eventually.  Narthring (talk  • contribs) 15:37, 20 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  —LibStar (talk) 04:49, 20 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - The key here is reliable third party sources, of which there are none. I personally question possible WP:COI of protester 75.84.195.169. Logical Fuzz (talk) 13:45, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per Narthring. Glass  Cobra  02:27, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
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