Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Bagsby


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The result was no consensus. ✗ plicit  12:59, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

David Bagsby

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DOesn't appear to meet WP:N. Has been in CAT:NN for 11 years; hopefully we can now resolve it. Boleyn (talk) 21:22, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Leaning keep. According to his website he's been inducted into the Western Swing Hall of Fame, which if we can find an independent ref to verify he would pass criteria 1 of WP:CREATIVE. This website, tulsatvmemories, which is affiliated with the Tulsa World, documents one of his projects and provides links to several articles in the Tulsa World where he and his work are the main subject. Here's a more recent review in the TW. There's lot's of TW press on Bagsby going back decades which I can't access because of a pay wall, but can see in searches (for example ). All of this to say, he appears to be an important artist in Oklahoma with plenty of RS to pass GNG, and with the Hall of Fame induction should meet our inclusion guidelines for artists.4meter4 (talk) 19:07, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:57, 11 September 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:02, 19 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment. when I go to his website, it turns out to be for two people. The only claim about the Western Swing Hall of Fame is for Steve, not David. --Larry/Traveling_Man (talk) 16:54, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks for catching my error. Regardless, I think there is enough RS on David to pass GNG.4meter4 (talk) 17:32, 19 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment #2. The links I've seen are interviews, or brief mentions. I suspect 4meter4 is correct about more press behind the paywall, but one can't rely on unseen stuff. Given that I know very little about the Tulsa music world, I don't feel comfortable !voting delete, but can't !vote keep either. --Larry/Traveling_Man (talk) 02:03, 21 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep - invalid nomination. This article was nominated for deletion within 60 seconds of unrelated edits to other things by the nominator. There's no possible way WP:BEFORE tagging, searches and discussions could have been conducted before this was nominated. Combined with the thoughtful case made above, I'm seeing no reason this should be deleted.  St ★ lwart 1 1 1 07:24, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
 * That is not policy based rationale.   scope_creep Talk  12:18, 23 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep in addition to the sources already shared, I found this magazine article discussing a band Bagsby was involved in, though they no longer list him as a member. Regardless, I feel there are enough sources here to establish notability. NemesisAT (talk) 15:11, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
 * That is a blog. You seem to a have sceloritic understanding of what constitutes significant coverage. Doesn't meet WP:SPS.   scope_creep Talk  12:18, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Not a blog. Oklahoma magazine is printed every month and circulated throughout the state. See below.4meter4 (talk) 13:56, 23 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Strong Delete These are poor reference that have been offered up for obscure person. The rest of the references look like blog and self-published sources. Why are these sources being offered up when they are not significant coverage? Fails WP:SIGCOV, WP:GNG, WP:MUSICBIO.   scope_creep Talk  12:18, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Umm... the sources being offered up are all from the Tulsa World which is the major regional newspaper for the Eastern half of the state of  Oklahoma. TulsaTVMemories is affiliated with the newspaper (according to The Tulsa World which links to the page in some of their articles on Bagby), and there are multiple url links on that page to articles on Bagby in The Tulsa World archives. Rather than copy pasting each url link to the newspaper, I thought this page was handy as a navigational tool to relevant RS in the Tulsa World. Clearly you did not examine the content closely or fairly evaluate it in your assessment above.4meter4 (talk) 13:34, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Addendum, I didn’t see the source you mislabeled as a blog by another user. Oklahoma magazine is not a blog. It’s actually a monthly magazine which is printed and is circulated throughout the state of Oklahoma; often available to grab for free in public spaces throughout the state such as public libraries, government buildings, museums, etc. See https://okmag.com/.4meter4 (talk) 13:53, 23 September 2021 (UTC)


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