Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Davidar

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The result of the debate was keep. -- BD2412 talk 05:06, July 17, 2005 (UTC)

David Davidar
Appears to be vanity. Head of Penguin Books in India, speedied 3 times but recreated but there hasn't been a proper vfd, but then Google seems to indicate that he is indeed an author. (no vote) Dunc|&#9786; 8 July 2005 11:16 (UTC)


 * Rewritten. Keep. Pcb21| Pete 8 July 2005 11:52 (UTC)
 * Delete. NN A curate's egg 8 July 2005 12:47 (UTC)
 * "Non-notability" is not an accepted reason for deletion per the deletion policy. Pcb21| Pete 8 July 2005 13:12 (UTC)
 * It pretty clearly is, it simply goes by other names. Looking at The deletion policy under "Problems that may require deletion" we see straight away vanity pages listed. Of course, for guidelines in what's "vanity" may vary wildly, so let's look at musicians as suggested by that page.  The first line states "This page gives some rough guidelines which we might use to decide if a musical topic is notable," (emphasis mine).   On this particular topic, I'm leaning towards Weak Delete based upon one book (which is one more than I've written), although I'd prefer to know how many copies it sold and it what countries.  Aaron Brenneman 8 July 2005 14:01 (UTC)
 * Yes it is, that's why we need to establish his notability through the notability of his works. Dunc|&#9786; 8 July 2005 13:54 (UTC)
 * No it isn't, else it would say so on the policy page. There is indeed a vanity clause, but that hardly applies to the version of the article as re-written by me. Pcb21| Pete 8 July 2005 14:17 (UTC)
 * WP:BIO would instead apply here. A &#1080; D &#1103; 01D  TALK  EMAIL  July 8, 2005 14:52 (UTC)
 * Are you actually saying, Pcb21, that as it does not say directly on the deletion policy page the exact words "non notability is grounds for possible deletion" that this is not a reason for nominating a page? The above-the-fold text on directly linked pages say:
 * WP:VAIN "As explained below, vanity by itself is not a basis for deletion, but lack of importance is..."
 * WP:NOT "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of items of information. That something is 100% true does not mean it is suitable for inclusion in an encyclopedia."
 * And it doesn't take much digging to find:
 * WP:BIO "Even though wiki is not paper, there are some criteria for inclusion. See also Importance..."
 * Non-notability is clearly a reason for nominating a page for deletion, both by consensus and by official policy. Obfuscation will not add to this pages chances of surviving, demonstrating this author's notability will. Aaron Brenneman 9 July 2005 03:49 (UTC)


 * Comment he does only appear to have authored 1 book, but does have an e-biography if anyone has $4 to spare . Dunc|&#9786; 8 July 2005 14:07 (UTC) WP:BIO
 * Tentative Keep. Published author of a book which appears to have a wide audience. Amazon sales rank: 49,017. If anyone can explain what the Amazon sales rank means in terms of raw number of sales, that would be extremely helpful. A &#1080; D &#1103; 01D  TALK  EMAIL  July 8, 2005 14:52 (UTC)
 * Comment Ihad a book that got to 250,000 with about 25 sales. I suspect 50,000 would be a lot less than 1,000 sales.--Porturology 9 July 2005 05:16 (UTC)
 * CommentThat was 1-2 sales per month. An amazon score of 50,000 would, I guess, be <50 per month.--Porturology 9 July 2005 05:45 (UTC)
 * Keep, head of penguin books in India, author of a book with a good sales rank. Kappa 8 July 2005 22:50 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand.--Scimitar 8 July 2005 23:04 (UTC)
 * Keep per Android and Amazon sales. Xoloz 9 July 2005 04:23 (UTC)
 * Delete One book is not a body of work and does not imply notability--Porturology 9 July 2005 05:17 (UTC)
 * Strong keep and expand well known editor, and as head of Penguin India has been active in building up Indo-Anglian writing (that red link doesn't speak too well for wiki!). His one book was noticed in India, sold well, and was widely read. Bambaiah 09:41, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
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