Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Dobrik (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  10:31, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

David Dobrik
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This subject is not notable. Coverage is mostly trivial and passing mentions. There is not enough significant coverage about the subject in WP:RS. Notability is not based on popularity. See argument on talk page it is about a person who is very popular. Also notability is not based on inheritance. There are un-sourced claims of celebrities subject has interviewed on youtube. These do not denote notability either. The number of other you-tubers known by this subject is also not important. The article is very promotional and is not suited for wikipedia. Z359q (talk) 12:28, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
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 * Delete I’m honestly surprised this page managed to get created. The draft was trash (I would know I had to correct it). While he’s a popular YouTuber and controversial DACA recipient, there are absolutely 0 reliable sources about him. Guy breaks up with girl isn’t news. Someone also removed some factual BLP information. Trillfendi (talk) 17:25, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, we have the BBC, Wired Magazine , The Verge , Sky News , the Evening Standard etc. So I question your "zero reliable sources". There is also The Post  (but you can question that as a student newspaper) or the non-RS Daily Mail . I didn't dig through the 11 hits on Google Scholar, but the person does look notable as a "famous Youtube personality" or whatever. Certainly it was not clear cut enough to delete this as a G4, so I declined the speedy. —Kusma (t·c) 19:22, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Zero reliable sources to substantiate notability. Common sense. That’s what this is about. BBC’s Newsbeat section is their Page Six for social media and gossip. Guy breaks up with girl isn’t BBC’s actual news. Trillfendi (talk) 21:13, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
 * First of all, it’s extremely rude to call the draft trash. All Wikipedia articles have to start somewhere. Saying that you had to fix it is extremely false. Many editors worked to make it what it is now. (The reason I’m so mad about your statements is that I created it, so thanks for that.) The sources listed are of reliability, and since you are the “fixer” of the page, maybe you could go out and find some new sources? Just a suggestion. Oh well, what do I know? It’s not like I’ve been editing Wikipedia pages for years or whatever.VoltronUniverse
 * This is not an article about Dobrik, but this Forbes article clearly assumes most people reading stories about YouTube know Dobrik, which does indicate notability to me. I'll just say keep at this point. —Kusma (t·c) 17:36, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 11:51, 30 January 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep Meets GNG, as per . Bondegezou (talk) 16:36, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Per Kusma and the fact that he gets some hits in google scholar . I think Wiki is certainly outdated in the way it treats internet celebrities; not our fault but i don't think old media sources know how to accurately cover a mainly young phenomenon. Because under any definition this guy's dedicated audience is bigger then 90% of entertainers on this site. If any other entertainer had ten million dedicated followers they'd have tons of sources. It's just the media seems to have a weak spot covering internet celebrities. GuzzyG (talk) 04:19, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 17:26, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Per Kusma as the article sites more sources than some articles of other entertainer sources on this website. Saying there is not enough sources is not fair considering other articles (e.g. Sasha Sloan) that provide less information about the person and provide less sources. If there was not enough sources as a biography of a living person per the amount of information, Bots would automatically alert editors to that. This article is about an influencer with 10million+ fans and describes his career and the group of people he is involved with. I say keep. Thanks, VoltronUniverse (talk) 14:06, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep sources indicate meeting GNG.. Specifically, the forbes article cited by Kusma implies that people are already familiar with Dobrik. --DannyS712 (talk) 18:54, 13 February 2019 (UTC)


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