Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David E. Williams Middle School


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Redirect. Dipankan ( Have a chat? ) 10:25, 27 May 2012 (UTC) (non-admin closure) }

David E. Williams Middle School

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nn middle school, doing what every other middle school does Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 12:05, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - This article has been around since Nov 2008 and hasn't bothered anyone. What is wrong with having an article about a public school?  --Mjrmtg (talk) 12:48, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * To keep an article, you must have a better argument than "it hasn't bothered anyone" (WP:NOHARM) or "it's been around since such and such a year" or anything else that falls under WP:AADD. Even schools must show that they have notability per Wikipedia guidelines. I don't have an opinion either way, but none of your arguments are valid. You need to show how it's notable per guidelines and back this up with reliable sources.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 13:15, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * You guys kill me. So much for discussion? Redirect. I am so trying to be civil and not call you guys what you are but you're making it pretty difficult. Is wikipedia running out of room on their servers?  Try to be un-routine for once. I took a wikipedia survey not to long ago and it asked if I edit more or less often than thee past and why. I stated I edited less often and it was because of users that like to delete articles instead of trying to find ways to improve them (among other things). --Mjrmtg (talk) 15:59, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I never said I wanted it deleted, just that if you want it kept, you have to argue your point differently as none of those arguments will help keep the article, unfortunately. I have to admit that I don't see the harm either in keeping articles about different schools, but that's not a reason to keep articles around and in the end the keep arguments need to be backed up with sources that prove that the school in question has notability. Not all of us are die-hard deletionists. Some of the rules are overly strict, but unfortunately that's because there have been people in the past (mostly companies and individuals looking to promote themselves or their products) that have abused the system enough to where it's necessary. I think I speak for a lot of us when we say we wish it wasn't necessary, but when you have people like "E.A. Blayre III" using Wikipedia to promote his book to the point of extreme abuse, you have to create stronger rules that end up removing the semi-notable authors in the process in order to keep out the truly undeserving. (I know that this is a school AfD, but the basic premise is the same.) I never meant to be rude, just letting you know that you've got to argue from a different standpoint. It's frustrating and I've seen a lot of articles deleted that I personally think has notability (such as a lot of ones about NYT bestselling authors and their books) yet doesn't have notability per Wikipedia guidelines. It's unfortunately just the way it is and it's unlikely to change back to the old ways anytime soon, if at all.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 04:03, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * not call you guys what you are? You've never read WP:CIVIL, so I will direct you and the horse you rode in on to do just that.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 17:02, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Please assume good faith and consider that WP:CIVIL is not just for newcomers. - Rushyo  Talk  17:06, 20 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Redirect- To Montour School District, where it is already appropriately listed, as a uniquely named verifiable primary school with an identifyable anchor destination per Articles for deletion/Common outcomes. All coverage is routine. Dru of Id (talk) 13:30, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect per above. Fails WP:N for an article in its own right and is a perfect candidate for WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. - Rushyo  Talk  17:09, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect per standard practice for all but the most exceptionally noteworthy elementary schools. Carrite (talk) 17:28, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect as is standard practice. It amazes me that we as a community continue to waste time on discussing something where the outcome has been so obvious for so long.   coccyx bloccyx  (toccyx)  18:49, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. &#9733;&#9734;  DUCK IS JAMMMY &#9734;&#9733; 20:46, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
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