Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Essner Mathematics Competition (1st nomination)

David Essner was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was KEEP

Vanity from beyond the grave. --fvw *  12:44, 2004 Dec 17 (UTC)


 * Keep (or rename to David Essner Mathematics Competition) - he's got a regional mathematics competition named after him that's been running for 20 years. Seems notable to me. Mdchachi|Talk 15:11, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Borderline IMO but I think it just scrapes in. Certainly not vanity! Andrewa 16:33, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. I don't think that he is sufficiently notable. Jacob1207 16:38, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. I fail to see how this could possible be contrived as vanity. [[User:GRider|GRider\talk]] 17:35, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. We need more (non-vanity) articles about people like him. P Ingerson 19:53, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. The founder of a notable organization or someone who has something notable named after them spicifically is almost always notable.  --L33tminion | (talk) 21:30, Dec 17, 2004 (UTC)
 * Comment. "Vanity from beyond the grave". Nice. Glad to know people care so warmly about Wikipedia. Also glad I can't vote. 82.92.119.11 21:35, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep, obviously. Wyss 23:13, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * keep Yuckfoo 01:55, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * KEEP. Maybe David Essner is not sufficiently notable, but the competition is.--AAAAA 04:12, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Duh, keep. &mdash;[[en:RaD Man|RaD Man (talk)]] 04:28, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * As per User:Mdchachi, I just renamed the article as David Essner Mathematics Competition, and added some more info about the competition.--AAAAA 04:30, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * WFM, I'm fine with keeping the redirect. --fvw *  18:01, 2004 Dec 18 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is not vanity, but it is an article about a person who is no more notable than any other graduate student and would not even be remembered by anyone outside of family, friends, and collegues if he had not happened to be killed.  Furthermore, this math compeition named after him is a secondary school compeition held in a single county and therefore not the least bit notable, as mathematics competitions are held all over the United States and this one has no special qualities of note.  It is a shame he was killed, but if that were enough to establish notability, then everyone who has died in an accident in the history of the world is similarly notable, which seems a ridiculous proposition.  True, fewer accident victims have had something named after them, but there are still thousands who have been memorialized in this manner and as stated above the math competition is trivial.  I understand that some people feel that any verifiable information is worth including in wikipedia, and I can comprehend this viewpoint even as I thouroughly disagree with it, but I am shocked that anyone would argue for inclusion of this article on grounds of notability.  Indrian 06:46, Dec 19, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Re: Indrian, you could say the same of all the articles of small towns, freeways, etc., in the United States. You could just as easily say they are not notable... Joshk 03:08, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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