Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Fox (lawyer)


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The result was keep. Sources have been shown to meet GNG requirements 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 13:25, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

David Fox (lawyer)

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This appears to be a non-notable lawyer. Passing mentions in news and I haven't found anything that shows any kind of notability that would qualify an encyclopedia article. --  Dane talk  21:28, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
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Comment / Additional references Hi, I'm not sure if this subject is suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia, but I was researching David Fox for work (not for him or his firm) and I was surprised a page did not already exist. So I put together and created his page. Here are some additional references to consider. Thank you! DesertDana (talk) 06:43, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

PROFILES

ARTICLES • 

INTERVIEWS

BOARD MEMBERSHIPS

WRITTEN BY DAVID FOX

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   08:22, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - Dana's content box shows a lot of primary refs, but I think there's enough secondary and tertiaries to keep the article.  Wiki Macaroons Cinnamon? 08:44, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete . He is mentioned in the NYTimes and other sources upon the move to Kirkland, but the stories are mostly about the law firms.  Other than that, the only source in the article is the "Drinks with the Deal" interview, which I don't think is enough for WP:SIGCOV.  The other sources listed by DesertDana seem to mostly be either passing mentions, or white papers written by the subject while a law student (with no evidence of impact).  Special comment that the two pieces they list in American Lawyer appear to be in special advertising supplements (so failing independence).  I'm watching this discussion, and if DesertDana wants to make a WP:THREE case, or if others can make a solid case for WP:GNG or a special notability, then I will change my !vote. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 09:53, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Struck my comment about special advertising supplement -- they are listed as such in the search index for americanlawyer-digital.com, but not on the page or at the front of the issue, and I now think this just indicates that the issue contains an advertising supplement. I'm still thinking about the implications for notability. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 06:26, 17 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete. Have to agree with Russ Woodroofe that most references are passing, and the only in depth reference is the "Drinks with the Deal" interview. As it stands, it does not meet WP:SIGCOV --Whiteguru (talk) 10:47, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

WP:THREE Thank you for taking the time to review. Following Russ Woodroofe's suggestion, I have listed what I think are the three best sources. (I also think the Calcalist article is quite strong; however, I realize it is not in English--although easily translated via Chrome--and may be overlooked because of that.) Also please note, there is speculation that the The American Lawyer article is from an advertising supplement; I do not believe this is the case. The article cited below is from an "IP Supplement," which refers to "Intellectual Property." DesertDana (talk) 02:42, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Victor Li, "Fast-Acting Duo," The American Lawyer, 28 March 2012.
 * Zachery Kouwe, "In Sign of Industry Shift, a Legal Giant Loses 2 Top Partners," The New York Times, 14 May 2009.
 * David Marcus, "Drinks With The Deal: Kirkland's David Fox," The Deal, 26 June 2020.
 * Keep per WP:SIGCOV - based on the top three best sources, which name him as a "top lawyer" at two of the largest and most-respected law firms in the United States. In particular, the Times article names him first and is basically about him. Likewise, the American Lawyer article is about him and a major case he handled. The Deal article is also entirely about him. Bearian (talk) 17:05, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Switching to Keep. I was mistaken in believing the American Lawyer article to be an advertising supplement (due to confusing search index display).  The NYTimes, American Lawyer/Calcalist, and Drinks with the Deal sources cover him at a career transition, after a major case, and as he steps towards winding down his career.  The NYTimes source still seems a little glancing to me, but American Lawyer is less so, and Calcalist and Drinks are both substantial. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 18:00, 17 August 2020 (UTC)


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