Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Hernandez


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. \ Backslash Forwardslash / {talk} 07:45, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

David Hernandez

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Delete. After Articles for deletion/Alexis Grace (2nd nomination) saw a “delete” outcome, I feel that the time has come to determine which of the American Idol contestants truly deserve their own articles. WP:NOTINHERITED tells us that just because somebody appeared on American Idol, it doesn’t make them notable and worthy of an article. This fails WP:MUSIC and WP:BIO. They’ve done nothing worthy of note since they appeared on American Idol. DJ 12:14, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails WP:MUSIC and WP:BIO. Also move David Hernandez (baseball), the notable baseball player, to David Hernandez after deletion.  young  american  (wtf?) 13:22, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 18:32, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Speedy close as a (unintentionally) disruptive nomination. The nominator rapid fire nominated 38 American Idol contestants all with the same (invalid) rationale that Alexis Grace (who finished 11th and hasn't had a chance to do anything post Idol yet) was deleted.  It is quite clear that he/she made no attempt to research any of the nominations as several quite clearly meet multiple inclusion criteria.  Some of these articles should be kept, and others merged, but none should be deleted.  All arguably meet WP:MUSIC #9: "Has won or placed in a major music competition" by virtue of making the finals of American Idol and the less notable ones should at least be merged with their respective American Idol season X pages.
 * This sort of mass nomination is unproductive because it leads to people voting based on "I like it"/"I don't like it" since no one can reasonably be expected to properly research 38 articles of the same nature in a week. (Indeed this has already begun to happen.)  Since the results of these AfDs are likely to be influenced by voting rather than a proper discussion, they should all be closed with no prejudice against reopening a few at a time after a good faith attempt to determine notability has been made. --ThaddeusB (talk) 22:39, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Speedy close per ThaddeusB. Jeni  ( talk ) 00:09, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy close per ThaddeusB without prejudicing the possibility of a re-list to discuss the merits of deletion in a more constructive way. The nominator has been a little trigger happy with these nominations, I think. Crafty (talk) 01:52, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy Close ThaddeusB said it best.  Shappy   talk  01:54, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy close per WikiProject Idol series; the Alexis Grace deletion was improper per that guideline, and this one is even more so. --RBBrittain (talk) 01:47, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy close per ThaddeusB and others, also without prejudice to individual AfDs, but one at a time. — Becksguy (talk) 02:19, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy close per RBBrittain. Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando (talk) 02:33, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy close, but move to David Hernandez (singer). CrazyC83 (talk) 03:15, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Good thought, CrazyC83, Agree.  — Becksguy (talk) 10:23, 29 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom and YoungAmerican. Despite the support of the Idol Wikiproject, subject fails WP:MUSIC and WP:BIO. Lara  19:02, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Note to closing admin, the above vote is a copy and paste vote, pasted across a group of AfDs in such a short space of time that the user could not have adequately checked notability of the subject in question. Jeni  ( talk ) 19:26, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Steady on there. It is quite possible that someone reviews numerous cases and then comments on them all at once, particularly if they are similar. What's the point in changing the wording if the same reasoning applies to numerous cases? Quantpole (talk) 10:59, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I looked over the bunch. Not to mention, most of them don't have a lot of information in them. I hope I'm not going to have to go through ~20 AFDs to point this out. I am. Let me add, none of the speedy close votes are based on anything related to policy. Lara  08:21, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep The article meets WP:RS standards. Pastor Theo (talk) 20:26, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep per Pastor Theo and WP:NOTE. The article has a lot of non-trivial information in it. The said finalist is pending record label signature.  Finalists are qualified to have an article on them if there is enough reliable information about him or her.  Lara's vote is just copy and paste.  Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando (talk) 04:11, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
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