Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Howard (politician)


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The result was delete.  MBisanz  talk 01:15, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

David Howard (politician)

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WP:BLP, written like a campaign brochure and resting entirely on primary sources with not a whit of reliable source coverage in sight, of a person notable only as a city councillor and an as yet unelected candidate for mayor. As always, Wikipedia does not extend an automatic presumption of notability under WP:NPOL to city councillors outside the narrow range of major, internationally famous global cities, nor to candidates for office who don't already have another valid claim of notability besides that — so his chances of qualifying for an article on here would depend on being sourced well enough to satisfy WP:GNG, but that hasn't been shown here. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 03:54, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. North America1000 11:47, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of North Carolina-related deletion discussions. North America1000 11:47, 13 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete In almost no cases are city council members default notable. We need adequate sourcing which this article lacks.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:44, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment - I must agree with the gist of 's analysis, but ... he might be notable, because it could be argued that Charlotte, North Carolina is itself so important internationally.  Charlotte is the largest population city in the geographically largest state east of the Mississippi, is the second-largest city in the Southern United States, and HQ of BofA.  My only three or four visits there was to the airport, so I'm no expert. He is a city-wide official. Bearian (talk) 19:38, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * For a local politican, it takes reliable source coverage of their political career, not just an unsourced or primary sourced assertion that they exist, to get them into Wikipedia. If this were properly sourced, by all means it could be kept on WP:GNG grounds — but NPOL's provision for city councillors is entirely dependent on the quality of sourcing present in the article as written, and makes no provision for anyone to keep a badly sourced campaign brochure. Bearcat (talk) 18:59, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep; though the article needs editing and revamping with other sources. Charlotte is more than 800,000 and hosted the national convention in 2012; isn't that somewhat "international"? Billy Hathorn (talk) 23:45, 18 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete only a few of the very largest cities are notable enough to make a presumption that their city council members are notable.  DGG ( talk ) 00:47, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. Here's what WP:POLOUTCOMES says: City councillors and other major municipal officers are not automatically notable, although precedent has tended to favor keeping members of the main citywide government of internationally famous metropolitan areas such as Toronto, Chicago, Tokyo or London. How many "internationally famous metropolitan areas" can one country, even a large and populous one, reasonably be said to have?  The examples listed suggest the bar was meant to be set rather high. Egsan Bacon (talk) 16:39, 20 July 2015 (UTC)


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