Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Lobato


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The result was delete. Nakon 01:46, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

David Lobato

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Poorly-sourced biography. I am unable to find any reliable sources that establish WP:BASIC notability. - MrX 02:08, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

There is verified source imdb: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm7210407/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by BossReplace (talk • contribs) 02:15, 8 April 2015 (UTC) '''

There 2nd reference :''' http://www.thehobbit.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by BossReplace (talk • contribs) 02:29, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
 * IMDb is generally not considered a reliable source, ref. External links/Perennial websites. The Hobbit official site did not list Lobato by name in either the Cast page or the Filmmaker/Crew page.  野狼院ひさし  u/t/c 02:36, 8 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete Out of all the English and Google translated hits I see at Google News Search, there are multiple different David Lobatos including a lottery seller and a county judge, but none speaks of a special effects specialist as the article claims.  野狼院ひさし  u/t/c 02:36, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. The lack of verification makes me think that this is either a hoax, or someone who has worked on the films in a non-notable capacity. Unverified claims of 'film producer' and 'director of special effects' raise red flags. Parenthetically, the primary editor uses 'imdb' in their name, which raises further concerns as to whether they contributed spurious information to that site, before bringing it here. Nobody would do that, though, right? 32.216.140.250 (talk) 03:29, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. IMDb is selectively reliable; the credits are, in my experience, just fine. He does have an IMDb page and credits for very well known, A-list films, but being one of dozens of special effects people on, for example, The Hobbit movies and a couple of Fast and Furious ones doesn't make one notable. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:22, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:34, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:34, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

ADD + 4 References :

http://hollywoodreporter.es/Hobbit%20Film%20Lands%20Best%20Opening%20of%202014%20-%20Hollywood%20Reporter.htm
 * - I'm calling shenanigans on (at least) this ref. First, the domain ends in .es, but every link on the page leads to hollywoodreporter.com. Second, here is the same exact article without David Lobato's name.- MrX 19:10, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

http://triblive.es/%27Hobbit%27%20tinkering%20is%20in%20a%20good%20cause,%20film%20creators%20say%20_%20TribLIVE.htm#axzz3WiyaidfN
 * - Same BS here -> (http://triblive.es/%27Hobbit%27%20tinkering%20is%20in%20a%20good%20cause,%20film%20creators%20say%20_%20TribLIVE.htm)




 * - MrX 19:23, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
 * - MrX 19:23, 8 April 2015 (UTC)


 * It is the web in Spanish, is redirected if you are in Spain, are updating contents (http://triblive.es/%27Hobbit%27%20tinkering%20is%20in%20a%20good%20cause,%20film%20creators%20say%20_%20TribLIVE.htm), REFERENCES ARE  CORRECT  IMDB — Preceding unsigned comment added by GoldEdit (talk • contribs)

elmundocine.com/DavidLobatoTheHobbit _ Cine_ EL MUNDO.html
 * Homepage of website redirects to elmundo.es; the actual article the author wrote at that time and date is here and not about Lobato. Origamiteⓣⓒ 00:27, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

www.hollywoodlife.es/‘Hobbit The Battle Of The Five Armies’ Review  A Gripping, Epic Retelling - Hollywood Life.htm
 * Hollywoodlife.es redirects to hollywoodlife.com, where this review is in English, like the rest of the site, and doesn't include Lobato. Origamiteⓣⓒ 00:27, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Apparently for reasons of privacy, this character didn't want to get out in the light

dissolve this elimination, is a person with references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DemondUS (talk • contribs) 14:44, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

ADD + 1  References :

http://cinemablend.es/The Hobbit The Battle of the Five Armies (2014).html
 * Home page redirects to Cinemablend.com...anyone surprised? Exactly the same situation as Hollywoodlife above. Origamiteⓣⓒ 00:27, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

ATTENTION THIS IS CREATING A BAD IMAGE OF THIS PERSON FAMOUS

Note that the film production in Spain is not the same as in United States — Preceding unsigned comment added by GoldEdit (talk • contribs) 23:17, 8 April 2015 (UTC)


 * It is not possible that the information is false, IMDB only creates pages checked if they have references, in IMDB cannot create this kind of profile without references, obviously is a producer of effects special not well known. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheMrWise (talk • contribs)
 * Delete The rampant fraud of references which establish notability have convinced me that this is a hoax. Also, IMDB accepts user-submitted content. Origamiteⓣⓒ 00:27, 9 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete Regardless of the socks and whatnot, there's obviously not enough coverage of this person, thus this becomes a promotional vanity bio at best. Having a distinguished or impressive CV does not notability make, at least not how we define it. There are thousands of people in the world that work behind the scenes in film and television, and very few of them ever receive significant coverage in media, mostly because they are behind the scenes. I have worked on notable desktop and web applications over the years, but I don't rate an article on Wikipedia even if the products do. And yeah, the citations seem very dodgy although I'm on the fence as to whether this is really a hoax or not. § FreeRangeFrog croak 00:28, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. I've blocked the following accounts as sock puppets: User:ZeusIMDB, User:BossReplace, User:GoldEdit, User:TheMrWise, and User:DemondUS. The AfD should still proceed to evaluate the article on its merits.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:56, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Could find no sources that indicate subject meets WP:BIO --Neil N  talk to me 01:17, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

David Lobato on show dating telenovela in Spain, show of famous people http://www.telecinco.es/mujeresyhombres/2013/julio/22-07-2013/Cita-Yanira-David-tronista-pretendiente_2_1640130024.html (Telecinco) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaimeitaly (talk • contribs) 01:45, 9 April 2015 (UTC)  — Jaimeitaly (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * That appears to be the dating show Mujeres y Hombres y Viceversa, correct? And is that David David Lobato? Because it looks to be David Rovira. Origamiteⓣⓒ 01:59, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * lol. Even one of the IMDB photos is a fake. Compare with . You can't make this stuff up! Well, actually, I guess you can! - MrX 02:08, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * The neckline on the Lobato photo just looks wrong. Is it me? Am I nuts and seeing things? Origamiteⓣⓒ 02:42, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Heh, no. It is very probably fake, and it was darkened to avoid it being too obvious. I lightened and posterized it to match an ELA-type analysis. Take a look. We might want to nuke this as an obvious hoax, and someone might want to contact IMDb for grins too. § FreeRangeFrog croak 02:49, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, 'shopped. I can see the pixels. Seriously though, if you overlay the images in Photoshop it's very obvious.- MrX 03:17, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
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