Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David M. Hayes


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The result was delete. seresin ( ¡? ) 05:29, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

David M. Hayes

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Page has been Speedy Deleted 4 times, restored twice (last time by me). The only reason I'm bringing it here is the question of whether being awarded French knighthood (Chavalier) is in itself enough of a notable achievement for such a bio article. I'd also note that it also appears to be an autobiography given that it has been consistently created by User:Davidmhayes. Currently the article doesn't even give the reason why he was awarded the knighthood. In England, knighthood is usually given for achievement or particular services to the country. No indication of the reason at the moment. My opinion is delete unless much more is added to the article. Pigman ☿ 18:02, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as notability is not even suggested by the information we have here. Ford MF (talk) 18:31, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment&mdash;I added an external link to his personal biography, but I haven't been able to corroborate it with independent sources.&mdash;RJH (talk) 18:55, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I declined the speedy on this in hopes that an article about a Chevalier of France would prove to have notability. I'm afraid that the creator, of the same name as the article, so he should know, has not provided any further evidence of meeting WP:N. In reading the linked bio, I am still not convinced of meeting WP:N. Willing to keep an open mind and hoping for improvement.  Dloh  cierekim  19:03, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete unless salvaged On reviewing the lengthy history of this article, I feel that that there has been ample opportunity for improvement. The lack of improvement may simply be that there are not verifiable sources showing notability. Someone please let me know if the situation improves in favor of the article. Cheers,  Dloh  cierekim  19:11, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Notability The civilian honor is one of 5 given by France to a US Citizen in 2006. Equivalent honor is our Congressional medal of honor. Agreed about autobio. Recognition for 20 years of advancing french language and culture. Editor two books detailing French culture: "French and Americans: The Other Shore" and "French in your Face," a French/English dictionary of slang.Davidmhayes (talk) 20:35, 22 April 2008 (UTC)davidmhayes129.44.86.161 (talk) 14:45, 27 April 2008 (UTC)davidmhayes129.44.86.161 (talk) 14:47, 27 April 2008 (UTC)davidmhayes
 * Equivalent is the Medal of Honor? Not a fracking chance. Nothing in the bio suggest any military service, let alone actions while in combat. You do our men and women in uniform a great disservice with this insulting statement, sir. DarkAudit (talk) 22:03, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The edit history is still there. Do not merely erase your comments as if you never made them. Use the strikeout button above. This isn't the Ministry of Truth. what was said cannot be unsaid. DarkAudit (talk) 22:14, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete No good sources. P.B. Pilhet  21:39, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Sources 3 published sources:, , , Davidmhayes (talk) 22:00, 22 April 2008 (UTC)davidmhayes
 * All provided by your own web page. Invalid as reliable sources. DarkAudit (talk) 22:04, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete WP:NN, WP:RS, WP:V & WP:COI.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk"


 * Google news archive search confirms Palm Beach Post article reference searched for "David Hayes" +chevalier . Behind pay wall.   Dloh  cierekim  01:49, 23 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. The decoration itself seems to not establish notability. Note that Ordre national du Mérite is an award that can be awarded more liberally than the prestigious Légion d'honneur and 10,000 Americans [...] have received [the Légion d'honneur]. - Nabla (talk) 01:39, 28 April 2008 (UTC)


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