Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David McMillan (footballer)


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The result was Snow Keep. (non-admin closure) – Davey 2010 Talk 22:52, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

David McMillan (footballer)

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Contested PROD. Fails WP:NFOOTBALL and WP:GNG. JMHamo (talk) 14:26, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
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 * Comment - 9 Europa League appearances, 6 goals in 9 Champions League appearances. 65 goals in 175 top-tier Irish appearances. None of these things meet WP:NFOOTY but I'd think he'd have gathered some press - but I've not had time to research. Nfitz (talk) 16:53, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - Ridiculous nomination as player is clearly notable. He has made 9 Europa League appearances, scored 6 goals in 9 Champions League appearances. Will be playing in European Group Stages later this season. Exactly what does an Irish semi-pro footballer have to do to be notable. DjlnDjln (talk) 17:06, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 * What does an Irish footballer need to do - 30 seconds of a late-game substitutation for about-to-be-regulated Little Nowhere FC, in the 4th tier of English football would do it. Nfitz (talk) 21:53, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
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*Delete - League of Ireland Premier Division is not presently listed as a fully-professional league, so any matches played in cup competitions do not meet the requirements of WP:NFOOTY, even against clubs which are part of an FPL. As McMillan has not play senior international football or in the Olympics, he must meet WP:GNG. The first, third, fourth, fifth, and sixth references in the article are routine coverage and therefore cannot be used to meet GNG. The second reference is about McMillan receiving a minor writers' award, hardly enough to generate presumed notability. I cannot find any other coverage in Google which could be used to meet GNG. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 19:03, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment If you Google "David McMillan" and Dundalk you get 91,600 results but he's not notable. Really ? And the "minor writers' award" has it's own article – League of Ireland Premier Division Player of the Month DjlnDjln (talk) 20:54, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - as one would expect, there's a lot of media coverage. In particular, there's a recent profile that meets WP:GNG. Nfitz (talk) 21:53, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete has not played in a fully pro league, does not pass the notability guidelines for footballers.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:41, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment He is currently the top scorer in the 2016–17 UEFA Champions League. Is that really not notable enough for you ? DjlnDjln (talk) 01:25, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment I am currently working on improving this article at my sandbox. Some of his more recent career is definitely notable. I recommend editors check my sandbox before voting to delete article. DjlnDjln (talk) 02:01, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep See, , , , and . RonSigPi (talk) 02:46, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep passes WP:GNG and has made multiple appearances in European Competitions.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 12:45, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - This recent purge of Irish top division footballers clearly demonstrates a need to be rather less dogmatic about the application of WP:FPL. While it seems to enjoy exalted status amongst a handful of unfortunate Wiki Geeks (© FourFourTwo), let's not forget it's only an essay. And a dubious essay at that. We can see from User:Djln/sandbox and WP:Articles for deletion/Kevin Doherty (footballer) that a player with a sustained career in the top division of Irish football will invariably attract non-trivial coverage in national media. 2A02:C7D:46F1:2B00:2591:F14C:A077:791 (talk) 13:14, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - probably scrapes through on GNG. GiantSnowman 17:57, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - Fails NFOOTY, but passes wider GNG. Significant, non-routine coverage can be found in the sources shown above. Fenix down (talk) 16:28, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment Have now updated article and in my opinion it clearly passes any sensible notability criteria. Stats in infobox and lower section are not 100% accurate, mainly because he is still active. Any volunteers to double check/update stats ? Djln Djln (talk) 18:44, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - In light of the sources provided by, I am changing my !vote. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 20:51, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - Clearly passes the WP:GNG criteria, particularly in light of extensive recent coverage nationally and internationally. --IrishTennis (talk) 13:34, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - Easily satisfies WP:GNG with ample coverage from numerous sources. Smartyllama (talk) 14:08, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep, more than enough media coverage to pass WP:GNG. --Jimbo[online] 16:39, 26 August 2016 (UTC)


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