Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Overend


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The result was delete. Black Kite (talk) 14:06, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

David Overend

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The subject of this article - a politician and artist - doesn't appear to meet WP:NPOLITICIAN or WP:ARTIST. He did not win an election, and although he played a reasonably important role in both the Northern Ireland Labour Party and the Progressive Unionist Party (two relatively minor parties, though significant in their own ways), his political involvement does not appear to be the subject of significant coverage in sources. Most of the material here is based on sources about those parties, where he is briefly mentioned, rather than on sources about Overend himself. This material could usefully be used in the party articles, but is not enough to establish Overend's notability. A search for sources about his art only really turns up sites selling his work. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:17, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions.  M assiveYR   ♠  20:19, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.  M assiveYR   ♠  20:19, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions.  M assiveYR   ♠  20:19, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment - I suspect there will be more in the Northern Irish regional media and possibly other Irish papers, but sadly I only have access to the Irish Times from the period when he was most active. The 1985 Irish Times article is substantially about Overend, but the other sources are shorter mentions.  He doesn't meet the specific notability criteria for politicians or artists, so I suppose this will have to be deleted unless more is found, which is a shame as there is plenty to say about him based on published sources, and he is an interesting and fairly notable figure. Warofdreams talk 21:45, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comments, . I did search LexisNexis for Northern Irish newspaper coverage in an attempt to expand the article, but didn't find much, and it was that that made me wonder whether Overend met the inclusion criteria. I now realise that LexisNexis's archives don't go back to the 1960s and 1970s for most NI media. I do have access to microfilm archives of the main NI newspapers, but I don't think they are indexed sufficiently to make finding coverage of Overend realistic. Cordless Larry (talk) 17:10, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking a look. Sounds like a definite delete with the possibility of recreation if more turns up in future. Warofdreams talk 22:40, 29 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete. It's certainly possible that better sourcing might exist, so no prejudice against recreation in the future if somebody can actually show that, but nominator is correct that the sourcing present here consists almost entirely of glancing namechecks of his existence in coverage of other things, not coverage that's substantively about him for the purposes of getting him over WP:GNG. And nothing claimed in the article entitles him to an automatic presumption of notability in the absence of enough sourcing to clear GNG, either. Bearcat (talk) 19:10, 28 August 2017 (UTC)


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